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Any visitor, of course. Sounds like you know who that visitor is. The island is Little St. James.

pavlov 9y ago
I don't know who is the person in the picture you posted. And how am I supposed to find out when you just post random pictures with no context? What are you trying to accomplish with all these bizarre hints ("sounds like you know...")? Do you think I'm part of some conspiracy?
- jakeogh 9y ago
  I don't think you are part of some conspiracy. The vagueness is because you seem to hold a strong opinion on this subject and I wanted to know if you were aware of the basics. The 'sounds like you know' is because I incorrectly assumed you swearing about that pic meant you knew who that is. It's a totally reasonable reaction. That's Anthony Weiner (former congressman). Joe Biden knows him well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCuDF4u5Yg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCuDF4u5Yg
  - pavlov 9y ago
    You misunderstand why I'm swearing about the pic. It's from a performance art piece that lasted 736.5 hours. Abramovic sat there quietly all that time, anyone could sit down with her, there was no vetting. Assuming an average of two minutes per visitor, she received 22,095 people. I would guess most of us don't meet that many people in our lifetimes. It's literally the same as if you posted a picture of me in the Louvre looking at a painting and standing next to someone you don't like, and then suggested this evidence proves I'm part of a paedophile ring with this person.
    - jakeogh 9y ago
      I'm def not trying to make this personal, your hypothetical 'literal' frame implies I failed. Maybe pedo rings don't exist, or maybe it's not something some elite have a history of. Maybe I have no good reason to mention that island, or these people. You made it clear you don't know the who what or where on subjects I suggested are pretty basic and related, yet you seem sure you are informed. If you want to know more, you could. It's not something anyone can effectively research in an evening unless you decide to dismiss it.
      - pavlov 9y ago
        > I'm def not trying to make this personal, your hypothetical 'literal' frame implies I failed. I guess I was offended that Marina Abramovic is dragged into this on the flimsiest of evidence. She is one of the leading artists in the world, and this kind of malicious gossip is the complete opposite of the radical openness and self-consciousness that she lives through her work. That's probably why this character assassination feels personal: if it can happen to her, it can happen to anyone. > You made it clear you don't know the who what or where on subjects I suggested are pretty basic and related, yet you seem sure you are informed. If you want to know more, you could. It's not something anyone can effectively research in an evening unless you want to just dismiss it. Here's the thing though: it's not something anyone can effectively research over the Internet -- full stop! Edgar Welch, the Pizzagate gunman who drove to Washington to investigate the Comet restaurant, believed he had done deep research on this. His family said to reporters that he spent months obsessing about it. One day, he had enough. This is what happened next: "According to texts cited by prosecutors, Welch believed he was doing a public service. 'Raiding a pedo ring, possibly sacraficing [sic] the lives of a few for the lives of many,' Welch wrote to one friend. 'Standing up against a corrupt system that kidnaps, tortures and rapes babies and children in our own back yard.' He added: 'I’m sorry bro, but I’m tired of turning the channel and hoping someone does something and being thankful it’s not my family. One day it will be our families. The world is too afraid to act and I’m too stubborn not to.' When he went to Washington, Welch took with him the assault weapon, a .38 revolver and a 12-gauge shotgun. When he walked into the restaurant, diners, including families with children, fled in panic. According to court documents, Welch fired the rifle several times at a locked closet door, damaging computer equipment, and aimed the gun at an employee who had entered the back of the restaurant and promptly ran back out. No one was injured. Welch later said he regretted his actions." (Quoted from https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/25/comet-ping-pong-alex-jones https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/25/comet-ping-p...) Do you think Welch was well-informed by Internet research?
        dom0 9y ago
        Could you maybe re-wrap that quote? You're making the page like 2000 pixels wide.

I don't know who is the person in the picture you posted. And how am I supposed to find out when you just post random pictures with no context? What are you trying to accomplish with all these bizarre hints ("sounds like you know...")? Do you think I'm part of some conspiracy?

jakeogh 9y ago
I don't think you are part of some conspiracy. The vagueness is because you seem to hold a strong opinion on this subject and I wanted to know if you were aware of the basics. The 'sounds like you know' is because I incorrectly assumed you swearing about that pic meant you knew who that is. It's a totally reasonable reaction. That's Anthony Weiner (former congressman). Joe Biden knows him well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCuDF4u5Yg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCuDF4u5Yg
- pavlov 9y ago
  You misunderstand why I'm swearing about the pic. It's from a performance art piece that lasted 736.5 hours. Abramovic sat there quietly all that time, anyone could sit down with her, there was no vetting. Assuming an average of two minutes per visitor, she received 22,095 people. I would guess most of us don't meet that many people in our lifetimes. It's literally the same as if you posted a picture of me in the Louvre looking at a painting and standing next to someone you don't like, and then suggested this evidence proves I'm part of a paedophile ring with this person.
  - jakeogh 9y ago
    I'm def not trying to make this personal, your hypothetical 'literal' frame implies I failed. Maybe pedo rings don't exist, or maybe it's not something some elite have a history of. Maybe I have no good reason to mention that island, or these people. You made it clear you don't know the who what or where on subjects I suggested are pretty basic and related, yet you seem sure you are informed. If you want to know more, you could. It's not something anyone can effectively research in an evening unless you decide to dismiss it.
    - pavlov 9y ago
      > I'm def not trying to make this personal, your hypothetical 'literal' frame implies I failed. I guess I was offended that Marina Abramovic is dragged into this on the flimsiest of evidence. She is one of the leading artists in the world, and this kind of malicious gossip is the complete opposite of the radical openness and self-consciousness that she lives through her work. That's probably why this character assassination feels personal: if it can happen to her, it can happen to anyone. > You made it clear you don't know the who what or where on subjects I suggested are pretty basic and related, yet you seem sure you are informed. If you want to know more, you could. It's not something anyone can effectively research in an evening unless you want to just dismiss it. Here's the thing though: it's not something anyone can effectively research over the Internet -- full stop! Edgar Welch, the Pizzagate gunman who drove to Washington to investigate the Comet restaurant, believed he had done deep research on this. His family said to reporters that he spent months obsessing about it. One day, he had enough. This is what happened next: "According to texts cited by prosecutors, Welch believed he was doing a public service. 'Raiding a pedo ring, possibly sacraficing [sic] the lives of a few for the lives of many,' Welch wrote to one friend. 'Standing up against a corrupt system that kidnaps, tortures and rapes babies and children in our own back yard.' He added: 'I’m sorry bro, but I’m tired of turning the channel and hoping someone does something and being thankful it’s not my family. One day it will be our families. The world is too afraid to act and I’m too stubborn not to.' When he went to Washington, Welch took with him the assault weapon, a .38 revolver and a 12-gauge shotgun. When he walked into the restaurant, diners, including families with children, fled in panic. According to court documents, Welch fired the rifle several times at a locked closet door, damaging computer equipment, and aimed the gun at an employee who had entered the back of the restaurant and promptly ran back out. No one was injured. Welch later said he regretted his actions." (Quoted from https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/25/comet-ping-pong-alex-jones https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/25/comet-ping-p...) Do you think Welch was well-informed by Internet research?
      - dom0 9y ago
        Could you maybe re-wrap that quote? You're making the page like 2000 pixels wide.