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No, the government didn't produce a food pyramid that largely reflected medical consensus of the day. The food pyramid they produced is almost inverted from th
by Consultant32452 10y ago
No, the government didn't produce a food pyramid that largely reflected medical consensus of the day. The food pyramid they produced is almost inverted from the medical consensus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_USDA_nutrition_guides#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_USDA_nutrition_guid...
>I respond because I'm tired of the narrative that when government does something stupid the answer should just be to remove government from the equation.
Don't pretend like you're presenting anything but an equal and opposite narrative. This government program, which is nothing more than bought and paid for marketing by lobbyists, has literally killed millions of people. How many people need to die before you'll say enough is enough?
If the government got out of the way then people would seek out the information they need and they would get it from a variety of sources such as books, their personal physicians (probably the best choice), or other sources. Unreliable sources would relatively quickly fall by the wayside. But the government voice is a foghorn which cannot be ignored, especially when you put it in the school curriculum.
>Let's stop being lazy. Let's dig into the details.
I'm right here with you. One-size fits all nutrition recommendations from the government is a disaster. When the government becomes a voice for nutrition recommendations its scope makes it, in effect, the only voice. That makes the government voice the ripest target for manipulation. Instead, the voice of the scientific community at large should be out there. It's there today, but it's drowned out by the government fog horn. If you want nutrition information, the best person to talk to is probably your doctor because they will know pretty near the latest medical information and be able to adjust it for you as an individual.
- graphitezepp 10y agoCentral issue: medical consensus in food pyramid era. I think the only thing you two actually disagree about (because I certainly agree with most of what both of you said) is the medical consensus at the time of the food pyramid, and the only thing that has been contributed to that is a Wikipedia link. Now I have a high degree of faith in Wikipedia and also fully expect the food pyramid was bought and paid for, but following through on Wikipedia to the links supporting this brings 2 book links and a USDA.gov page. Perhaps reading the books would provide a high degree of good explanation, but I still don't know what the medical consensus at the time was. My contribution is a crappy link ( http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/science/09tier.html http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/science/09tier.html ) that suggests the medical consensus indeed thought fat was a greater enemy and am left with no solid belief of the central issue. Stuff is hard.