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"Tuition for the Master of Science in Product Management program is charged at a flat rate of $65,000 for the 12-month program. This cost covers tuition only. I

"Tuition for the Master of Science in Product Management program is charged at a flat rate of $65,000 for the 12-month program. This cost covers tuition only. It does not include university fees, summer electives or other miscellaneous expenses." Ouch.

gravypod 9y ago
It's very funny that "Get rich quick! Buy my DVD and come to my training course to learn how" scammers are thought of in a negative light but when you are a university and charge more money it becomes noble endeavor.
- goalieca 9y ago
  These universities are accredited so they are hardly a scam.
  - ProAm 9y ago
    >These universities are accredited lol
  - douche 9y ago
    So was ITT Tech, and we saw just how much their accreditation was worth when somebody actually bothered looking into it.
- matt_wulfeck 9y ago
  I think the ROI here is going to be a lot better. It's a masters from one of the most prestigious schools in the country.
  - wu-ikkyu 9y ago
    Maybe, maybe not. It's not just $65k plus fees and expenses, its also the opportunity cost of having sunk a year into this. How long would it take to recuperate those losses on a product manager salary? Perhaps just landing an entry level product manager job would teach you the practical skills you need, and you get paid for doing it instead of the other way around.
    - mdorazio 9y ago
      100% agree. The key here is that they are targeting people who already have a CS undergrad degree and thus are likely already employed or going to be employed in high-paying jobs with good future prospects. I'm not really seeing the ROI on this.
      - sjg007 9y ago
        Well it formalizes the product manager role.. so like an MBA? Here you also get connections across the software industry. You probably learn some skills as well. Longer term it might help push you further up the food chain.
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hkmurakami 9y ago
Seems in line with MBA costs.
aub3bhat 9y ago
It's a great deal. Way more cheaper than some fly-by-night coding "academy" which charge 35K$ for 4 months. Also they offer a real degree, from a good US university accepted as a valid qualification by governments & corporations world-wide. Note: Not affiliated with CMU.
- reek 9y ago
  > Way more cheaper than some fly-by-night coding "academy" which charge 35K$ for 4 months Comparing an overpriced thing to a really overpriced thing doesn't change the fact that they're both overpriced
kayoone 9y ago
As a resident of a country where education of all levels is basically free, this always sounds so unreal to me. I would never even think about it, how would you make that kind of money back in a reasonable amount of time to be worth it ?
- MacsHeadroom 9y ago
  PMs at established tech companies can make $200k+ in salary and usually have extra massive stock options to boot. An Amazon PM averages something like $600k/year if they stick around for 5 years.
  - oculusthrift 9y ago
    you honestly think Pm's at Amazon make 600k a year??????????
  - tedsanders 9y ago
    Factcheck: Senior Product Managers at Amazon HQ with 4-6 years of experience self report an average salary of $123K and average total comp of $162K. Even if a single Amazon PM has made $600K in one year, it does a disservice to readers to imply that that's commonplace. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Amazon-Senior-Product-Manager-Seattle-Salaries-EJI_IE6036.0,6_KO7,29_IL.30,37_IM781.htm?filter.experienceLevel=FOUR_TO_SIX https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Amazon-Senior-Product-Manag...
    - product50 9y ago
      This is really not true. PMs with 4-6yrs of experience at Facebook/Google easily make >$300k/yr. Can't imagine Amazon being too behind. $40k in stock after 4-6yrs of PM experience is ludicrous - not sure any bright PM will ever take that.
    - dsacco 9y ago
      Ask yourself: even if you disagree with the parent's numbers, do these numbers from Glassdoor make sense to you? A friend of mine has a younger sister who was offered $120k base salary out of college to work at Google in NYC, and another 30k in RSUs. She's told me this compares favorably with what friends of hers were offered at similar companies on the east and west coasts. I'm going to avoid a discussion about merit, but suffice it to say that I believe seniors PMs working at Amazon for a few years are far closer to $600k than $100k.

gravypod 9y ago

It's very funny that "Get rich quick! Buy my DVD and come to my training course to learn how" scammers are thought of in a negative light but when you are a university and charge more money it becomes noble endeavor.

goalieca 9y ago
These universities are accredited so they are hardly a scam.
- ProAm 9y ago
  >These universities are accredited lol
- douche 9y ago
  So was ITT Tech, and we saw just how much their accreditation was worth when somebody actually bothered looking into it.
matt_wulfeck 9y ago
I think the ROI here is going to be a lot better. It's a masters from one of the most prestigious schools in the country.
- wu-ikkyu 9y ago
  Maybe, maybe not. It's not just $65k plus fees and expenses, its also the opportunity cost of having sunk a year into this. How long would it take to recuperate those losses on a product manager salary? Perhaps just landing an entry level product manager job would teach you the practical skills you need, and you get paid for doing it instead of the other way around.
  - mdorazio 9y ago
    100% agree. The key here is that they are targeting people who already have a CS undergrad degree and thus are likely already employed or going to be employed in high-paying jobs with good future prospects. I'm not really seeing the ROI on this.
    - sjg007 9y ago
      Well it formalizes the product manager role.. so like an MBA? Here you also get connections across the software industry. You probably learn some skills as well. Longer term it might help push you further up the food chain.
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hkmurakami 9y ago

Seems in line with MBA costs.

aub3bhat 9y ago

It's a great deal. Way more cheaper than some fly-by-night coding "academy" which charge 35K$ for 4 months. Also they offer a real degree, from a good US university accepted as a valid qualification by governments & corporations world-wide. Note: Not affiliated with CMU.

reek 9y ago
> Way more cheaper than some fly-by-night coding "academy" which charge 35K$ for 4 months Comparing an overpriced thing to a really overpriced thing doesn't change the fact that they're both overpriced

kayoone 9y ago

As a resident of a country where education of all levels is basically free, this always sounds so unreal to me. I would never even think about it, how would you make that kind of money back in a reasonable amount of time to be worth it ?

MacsHeadroom 9y ago
PMs at established tech companies can make $200k+ in salary and usually have extra massive stock options to boot. An Amazon PM averages something like $600k/year if they stick around for 5 years.
- oculusthrift 9y ago
  you honestly think Pm's at Amazon make 600k a year??????????
- tedsanders 9y ago
  Factcheck: Senior Product Managers at Amazon HQ with 4-6 years of experience self report an average salary of $123K and average total comp of $162K. Even if a single Amazon PM has made $600K in one year, it does a disservice to readers to imply that that's commonplace. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Amazon-Senior-Product-Manager-Seattle-Salaries-EJI_IE6036.0,6_KO7,29_IL.30,37_IM781.htm?filter.experienceLevel=FOUR_TO_SIX https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Amazon-Senior-Product-Manag...
  - product50 9y ago
    This is really not true. PMs with 4-6yrs of experience at Facebook/Google easily make >$300k/yr. Can't imagine Amazon being too behind. $40k in stock after 4-6yrs of PM experience is ludicrous - not sure any bright PM will ever take that.
  - dsacco 9y ago
    Ask yourself: even if you disagree with the parent's numbers, do these numbers from Glassdoor make sense to you? A friend of mine has a younger sister who was offered $120k base salary out of college to work at Google in NYC, and another 30k in RSUs. She's told me this compares favorably with what friends of hers were offered at similar companies on the east and west coasts. I'm going to avoid a discussion about merit, but suffice it to say that I believe seniors PMs working at Amazon for a few years are far closer to $600k than $100k.