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Interesting to see people downvote you, just a week ago the top comment here on HackerNews (on Macron winning), mentioned how there was "Russian metadata" in th

Interesting to see people downvote you, just a week ago the top comment here on HackerNews (on Macron winning), mentioned how there was "Russian metadata" in the hack [1]. Just goes to show you how people will believe what benefits them and downvote what's inconvenient. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14286630 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14286630

Analemma_ 9y ago
Put away the persecution fantasies, he's being downvoted because he's wrong. There were two separate incidents here: weev is behind the phony finance documents, not the account hacks, which are still believed to be Russian in origin.
- yorwba 9y ago
  He is not wrong in general, though. Russia and China do have kids doing it for the lulz, as well as criminal groups. So if you have clues on the country of origin of an attack, you still need additional evidence (such as methods used and choice of target) to be reasonably sure of state sponsorship.
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  - pygy_ 9y ago
    Provided the Macron campaign had a competent chief security officer (coming straight from the industry) and was paranoid about security, and given the scale of the leak, it seems unlikely that it was the job of skiddies doing it for the lulz.
    - bigbugbag 9y ago
      Macron campaign had a competent chief security officer ? Seems unlikely. -edit- well then downvote me instead of providing a name and explanation that this guy was competent, macronleak was depicted as poor security practices and probably low level attacks[1]. Let's not forget that they got breached at least once beforehand during the campaign and the trend micro report[2] explained what to do to protect against these attacks which obviously was not applied (assuming the leak has not been orchestrated). [1] https://www.nextinpact.com/news/104217-edito-macronleaks-ou-eloge-dune-meilleure-securite-et-chiffrement-echanges.htm https://www.nextinpact.com/news/104217-edito-macronleaks-ou-... [2] https://documents.trendmicro.com/assets/wp/wp-two-years-of-pawn-storm.pdf https://documents.trendmicro.com/assets/wp/wp-two-years-of-p...
- stevenwoo 9y ago
  I don't know how accurate it is, but the wikipedia entry on weev indicates he is in the Ukraine, not sure in the Russian occupied part or sovereign Ukraine.
- stupidhn 9y ago
  >Put away the persecution fantasies, he's being downvoted because he's wrong Wrong about what, exactly? I simply stated that instances exist in which an American or Chinese hackers may do wrong without having any connection to the government. If you disagree..you're quite obviously wrong.
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Analemma_ 9y ago

Put away the persecution fantasies, he's being downvoted because he's wrong. There were two separate incidents here: weev is behind the phony finance documents, not the account hacks, which are still believed to be Russian in origin.

yorwba 9y ago
He is not wrong in general, though. Russia and China do have kids doing it for the lulz, as well as criminal groups. So if you have clues on the country of origin of an attack, you still need additional evidence (such as methods used and choice of target) to be reasonably sure of state sponsorship.
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- pygy_ 9y ago
  Provided the Macron campaign had a competent chief security officer (coming straight from the industry) and was paranoid about security, and given the scale of the leak, it seems unlikely that it was the job of skiddies doing it for the lulz.
  - bigbugbag 9y ago
    Macron campaign had a competent chief security officer ? Seems unlikely. -edit- well then downvote me instead of providing a name and explanation that this guy was competent, macronleak was depicted as poor security practices and probably low level attacks[1]. Let's not forget that they got breached at least once beforehand during the campaign and the trend micro report[2] explained what to do to protect against these attacks which obviously was not applied (assuming the leak has not been orchestrated). [1] https://www.nextinpact.com/news/104217-edito-macronleaks-ou-eloge-dune-meilleure-securite-et-chiffrement-echanges.htm https://www.nextinpact.com/news/104217-edito-macronleaks-ou-... [2] https://documents.trendmicro.com/assets/wp/wp-two-years-of-pawn-storm.pdf https://documents.trendmicro.com/assets/wp/wp-two-years-of-p...
stevenwoo 9y ago
I don't know how accurate it is, but the wikipedia entry on weev indicates he is in the Ukraine, not sure in the Russian occupied part or sovereign Ukraine.
stupidhn 9y ago
>Put away the persecution fantasies, he's being downvoted because he's wrong Wrong about what, exactly? I simply stated that instances exist in which an American or Chinese hackers may do wrong without having any connection to the government. If you disagree..you're quite obviously wrong.

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