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Github should donate a license for Github Enterprise to gnome so that the gnome folks can have the best of both worlds - self hosted + github. Its a win for git

by kt9 9y ago

Github should donate a license for Github Enterprise to gnome so that the gnome folks can have the best of both worlds - self hosted + github. Its a win for github to have a big project like gnome running on GHE.

zanny 9y ago
Gnome already discounted Gitlab Enterprise as an option because its proprietary. It is very hypocritical to promote free software while using proprietary software that you got special privilege for on the backend. KDE had the same line of thought when they chose Phabricator - if features like LDAP weren't locked behind Gitlab EE they would have used that, but they were only considering freedom respecting options, because they are communities of hackers that want access to improve their tools.
- sytse 9y ago
  What kind of LDAP functionality did KDE want? LDAP login is in GitLab CE (open source) but LDAP group sync is in GitLab Enterprise Edition (proprietary). I wrote https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11092182 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11092182 but I can't find LDAP references in any of the linked emails.
smichel17 9y ago
Gnome won't do that because Github is not open source software (a good thing, in my opinion).
- newsat13 9y ago
  Why is closed source software a good thing?
  - smhenderson 9y ago
    I read that as Gnome not using GH because it's closed software is a good thing.
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - badosu 9y ago
    Maybe the good thing he refers to is the premise.
qb45 9y ago
Until github decides they don't need or can't afford this PR anymore. Or uses it to exert some pressure on GNOME for whatever ends and reasons.
- cyphar 9y ago
  GNOME is part of the GNU project, so the only "pressure" they could apply to GNOME is to make their enterprise offering entirely free software (at which point they will run it themselves because of GNUs and the FSFs position on Service-as-a-Software-Substitute[1]). [1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-s...
  - qb45 9y ago
    I talked what would happen if GNOME was hosted on the (currently proprietary) GHE as OP proposed.
    - cyphar 9y ago
      Ah okay, I misunderstood. ;)

by kt9 9y ago

zanny 9y ago

Gnome already discounted Gitlab Enterprise as an option because its proprietary. It is very hypocritical to promote free software while using proprietary software that you got special privilege for on the backend. KDE had the same line of thought when they chose Phabricator - if features like LDAP weren't locked behind Gitlab EE they would have used that, but they were only considering freedom respecting options, because they are communities of hackers that want access to improve their tools.

sytse 9y ago
What kind of LDAP functionality did KDE want? LDAP login is in GitLab CE (open source) but LDAP group sync is in GitLab Enterprise Edition (proprietary). I wrote https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11092182 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11092182 but I can't find LDAP references in any of the linked emails.

smichel17 9y ago

Gnome won't do that because Github is not open source software (a good thing, in my opinion).

newsat13 9y ago
Why is closed source software a good thing?
- smhenderson 9y ago
  I read that as Gnome not using GH because it's closed software is a good thing.
- deleted 9y ago
  [deleted]
- badosu 9y ago
  Maybe the good thing he refers to is the premise.

qb45 9y ago

Until github decides they don't need or can't afford this PR anymore. Or uses it to exert some pressure on GNOME for whatever ends and reasons.

cyphar 9y ago
GNOME is part of the GNU project, so the only "pressure" they could apply to GNOME is to make their enterprise offering entirely free software (at which point they will run it themselves because of GNUs and the FSFs position on Service-as-a-Software-Substitute[1]). [1]: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.en.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-s...
- qb45 9y ago
  I talked what would happen if GNOME was hosted on the (currently proprietary) GHE as OP proposed.
  - cyphar 9y ago
    Ah okay, I misunderstood. ;)