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>1) Follow behind your kid on halloween Seriously? Fucking walk.

• asn0 9y ago
  Um, there are reasons other than laziness.
  • ThomPete 9y ago
    Such as?
    • Namrog84 9y ago
      Various forms of disabilities, injuries, other conditions that walking isn't great for. Personal: My mom has CRPS and walking around causes a great increase in pain for her(painkillers, even morphine level have almost 0 effect), even being in a car can be very difficult for her, but a vehicle she is able to better position herself than in a wheelchair. She can't drive because of it, but an autonomous car would make it so she could potentially go places (or follow the grand children around at Halloween). Both my parents are in their 60s and 70s and are super excited about level 5 self-driving cars. Random other example: Parent is on crutches from injury, insurance didn't cover wheelchair, or perhaps live in area with poor wheelchair accessibility(bad/no sidewalks). But crutches are too slow to keep up with the kids, they could easily just sit in a self driving car and keep up. But not having to focus on driving and hitting other kids night, can focus on watching their kids and hanging out the window to interact with them.
      • ThomPete 9y ago
        Thats hardly a generalisable argument in this context is it?
      • Namrog84 9y ago
        ThomPete, Sure these aren't necessarily applicable to ALL people, but you asked "such as?" to "Um, there are reasons other than laziness." I gave you at least 2 specifics such as. There are plenty of laziness reasons, but doesn't mean there aren't potential valid reasons besides laziness. I also generalized the "Various forms of disabilities, injuries, other conditions that walking isn't great for." in the beginning. And there are literally tens of millions of Americans that have at least 1 disability (approximately 20 percent of the US population). And lots of other countries like Japan has an aging population which are likely to have various mobility issues. Not including injuries, or potentially other issues. So I would say that is fairly generalizable.
        • ThomPete 9y ago
          Didn't mean to diminish the burden for those in the specific situations. Just mean that we can't have a discussion about self-driving cars by using anecdotes and anomalies, we have to talk about the general issues.
    • asn0 9y ago
      * it's cold and kids need a place to warm up * mixed-ability group of kids want to go together, tired kids need a place to take breaks but keep up with the group
• dang 9y ago
  We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14353627 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14353627 and marked it off-topic.
• harshaw 9y ago
  My point was that there are use cases where you are probably going to still want driving. E.g: having control over the pedal and the steering wheel is a bit easier than telling your car to stop and start, or crawl along at 3 miles an hour. Driving is a magical experience. We don't think about it at all, we just do it. The issue is that a level 5 car will still need traditional input devices for things that are harder to describe with voice than just, you know, doing it. And because you still need traditional input controls you probably will still need insurance.