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I don't know why people are so adamant about this being an outlier. Yes, not all tech companies pay $300k+ for senior engineers. But Netflix/Google/Facebook do.

I don't know why people are so adamant about this being an outlier. Yes, not all tech companies pay $300k+ for senior engineers. But Netflix/Google/Facebook do. I don't know why that should be a problem for people. Denying it, and mocking anyone who brings it up, just depresses wages for engineers across the board.

ryandrake 9y ago
People are adamant about it because in all cases, those claiming these salaries are common provide no evidence to back up their claims. It's always "I know this guy who..." or "It just is, I'm telling you!" You can argue that glassdoor and other online surveys are self-selecting and suffer from this or that bias, but at least they (presumably) are trying to back their results up with data. Multiple online sites agree that a median & average Senior Software Engineer BASE salary in the Bay area is between $130K and $140K [1] [2]. If you want to say this is wrong, fine, come in with some other actual data rather than just hearsay and doubt casting. If you want to say "but that's just base salary" also fine, but show some total comp data with a sample size greater than N=1. 1: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-senior-software-engineer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,13_IM759_KO14,38.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-senior-soft... 2: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Senior_Software_Engineer/Salary/11028638/San-Francisco-CA http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Senior_Software_Engi...
- brendangregg 9y ago
  Can you tell me your companies name, your full name, and share proof of salaries for engineers at your company (merely to settle an argument on HN)? No? That is why it's not commonly shared and proven like you are asking for. Try putting yourself in the other person's shoes.
- pfarnsworth 9y ago
  Typical HN comment making bullshit assertions without any evidence. Look at the links I posted.
- phamilton 9y ago
  https://www.paysa.com/salaries/google--senior-software-engineer https://www.paysa.com/salaries/google--senior-software-engin... https://www.paysa.com/salaries/facebook--senior-software-engineer https://www.paysa.com/salaries/facebook--senior-software-eng... https://www.paysa.com/salaries/netflix--senior-software-engineer https://www.paysa.com/salaries/netflix--senior-software-engi...

ryandrake 9y ago

People are adamant about it because in all cases, those claiming these salaries are common provide no evidence to back up their claims. It's always "I know this guy who..." or "It just is, I'm telling you!" You can argue that glassdoor and other online surveys are self-selecting and suffer from this or that bias, but at least they (presumably) are trying to back their results up with data. Multiple online sites agree that a median & average Senior Software Engineer BASE salary in the Bay area is between $130K and $140K [1] [2]. If you want to say this is wrong, fine, come in with some other actual data rather than just hearsay and doubt casting. If you want to say "but that's just base salary" also fine, but show some total comp data with a sample size greater than N=1. 1: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-senior-software-engineer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,13_IM759_KO14,38.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/san-francisco-senior-soft... 2: http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Senior_Software_Engineer/Salary/11028638/San-Francisco-CA http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Senior_Software_Engi...

brendangregg 9y ago
Can you tell me your companies name, your full name, and share proof of salaries for engineers at your company (merely to settle an argument on HN)? No? That is why it's not commonly shared and proven like you are asking for. Try putting yourself in the other person's shoes.
pfarnsworth 9y ago
Typical HN comment making bullshit assertions without any evidence. Look at the links I posted.
phamilton 9y ago
https://www.paysa.com/salaries/google--senior-software-engineer https://www.paysa.com/salaries/google--senior-software-engin... https://www.paysa.com/salaries/facebook--senior-software-engineer https://www.paysa.com/salaries/facebook--senior-software-eng... https://www.paysa.com/salaries/netflix--senior-software-engineer https://www.paysa.com/salaries/netflix--senior-software-engi...