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I guess I would have taken her to the authorities and helped her get whatever help she needs as soon as I determined her situation. And your friend is no femin

I guess I would have taken her to the authorities and helped her get whatever help she needs as soon as I determined her situation. And your friend is no feminist or idealist.

kostyk 9y ago
I see a lot of ads in the highway rest areas against slavery translated in multiple languages. There is hotline phone number on them. Its so easy to report to authorities they even encourage you. Every time i saw them i thought slavery in our day and age??? Now i know better.
wyager 9y ago
> And your friend is no feminist or idealist. No Scotsman either!
- wavefunction 9y ago
  Feminism is the idea that women have the natural right to make decisions for their own lives and pursue those decisions to the best of their abilities. Taking part in the detention and mistreatment of a woman is orthogonal to being a feminist. Idealism, well I'm assuming she's not an adherent of the philosophical kind and aspires to some sort of 'ideal' which I would have a hard time reconciling with slavery. So in conclusion, I reject your charges of No True Scotsman. Some things are cut-and-dried.
  - dismantlethesun 9y ago
    Would you say it is misandrist to harm any man, anywhere? But I agree like most people they are likely a realist not an idealist.
zem 9y ago
if his friend was indian, the authorities would have been mightily puzzled. this is standard treatment for live-in servants, right down to the sheer meanness of making sure she "didn't get too comfortable" by way of an unnecessary phone call each morning.
4bpp 9y ago
How likely would that be to lead to a better outcome than both the slaver or the slave being deported? Any solution that grants immigration status to people (who are often, as the woman in OP's story, not even literate) "just" on the basis of them having been enslaved is probably not politically tenable in the US. The most you can hope for is some sizeable amount of damages to be paid, and depending on the legal framework of the source country they subsequently get expelled to, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the slaver could just reclaim the money once they are back.

I guess I would have taken her to the authorities and helped her get whatever help she needs as soon as I determined her situation. And your friend is no feminist or idealist.

kostyk 9y ago

I see a lot of ads in the highway rest areas against slavery translated in multiple languages. There is hotline phone number on them. Its so easy to report to authorities they even encourage you. Every time i saw them i thought slavery in our day and age??? Now i know better.

wyager 9y ago

> And your friend is no feminist or idealist. No Scotsman either!

wavefunction 9y ago
Feminism is the idea that women have the natural right to make decisions for their own lives and pursue those decisions to the best of their abilities. Taking part in the detention and mistreatment of a woman is orthogonal to being a feminist. Idealism, well I'm assuming she's not an adherent of the philosophical kind and aspires to some sort of 'ideal' which I would have a hard time reconciling with slavery. So in conclusion, I reject your charges of No True Scotsman. Some things are cut-and-dried.
- dismantlethesun 9y ago
  Would you say it is misandrist to harm any man, anywhere? But I agree like most people they are likely a realist not an idealist.

zem 9y ago

if his friend was indian, the authorities would have been mightily puzzled. this is standard treatment for live-in servants, right down to the sheer meanness of making sure she "didn't get too comfortable" by way of an unnecessary phone call each morning.

4bpp 9y ago

How likely would that be to lead to a better outcome than both the slaver or the slave being deported? Any solution that grants immigration status to people (who are often, as the woman in OP's story, not even literate) "just" on the basis of them having been enslaved is probably not politically tenable in the US. The most you can hope for is some sizeable amount of damages to be paid, and depending on the legal framework of the source country they subsequently get expelled to, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the slaver could just reclaim the money once they are back.