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It’s an OS for your phone that becomes a proper desktop OS if you plug in a monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. I don’t think this has been done before, or maybe I’m

by xrisk 9y ago

It’s an OS for your phone that becomes a proper desktop OS if you plug in a monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. I don’t think this has been done before, or maybe I’m just hopelessly unaware? Either way, I think it’s quite interesting.

cwyers 9y ago
Motorola Atrix, Ubuntu Phone, Windows Phone 10 has Continuum. It's been tried before.
- xrisk 9y ago
  I stand corrected then.
- ruleabidinguser 9y ago
  I don't think this makes sense until phones are basically as fast as current laptops.
  - thatcat 9y ago
    The flagship phone for this OS is the nexus 5 which uses a 2.26 Ghz quad core qualcomm chip and has 2 gb ram. The hw limitation seems to be the low ram limiting the number of memory heavy desktop apps you can run. Definitely not a video editing rig and vbox doesn't work on arm hosts, but this is good for spread sheets / typing up papers / scanning things with your camera and quickly editing them on a desktop with out any data transfer hassles.
    - petecox 9y ago
      Exactly, the complaint of power users is that "it'll never be as powerful as my Core i7 desktop". Were a phone solution seamless enough to dock into my kvm switch, I'd power up my 'workstation' far less often.
    - ksk 9y ago
      The CPU speed for all mobile devices is deceptive. You can't actually run the CPU at that speed for anything but the tiniest amount of time, without immediately running into the throttling brick wall.
  - ghostly_s 9y ago
    Doesn't Apple have laptops in their current lineup which are less powerful than their top of the line phone?
    - LeoNatan25 9y ago
      The MacBook isn't a very strong machine. Wouldn't be surprised if A10 beats it even in single-core performance.
- disconnected 9y ago
  And now, also Samsung DeX, but that one requires a Galaxy S8 and a special dock.
  - rtkwe 9y ago
    The dock is really just breaking out the USB-C port to the various docks no reason it couldn't be replicated with a USB-C hub other than software lockin. Not sure there's any reason it couldn't be done with any other phone that has USB-C either.
    - wvenable 9y ago
      I think the big factor with the DeX dock is the big fan that runs to cool off the phone while it's in that mode.
- barce 9y ago
  Yeah, but these would never work with VR. The moment phones became capable of delivering smooth VR, i.e. smooth graphics, the phone PC became a strong possibility for quotidian tasks.
- ygjb 9y ago
  Yes, and it took around 20 years to go from the patent for the first underpinnings of applications for phones other than communication in the 1970s to Simon Personal Communicator in the early 90s, and then another 10-15 years for the first smart phones to emerge. If people gave up because it "had been tried before", we wouldn't have any of the technology we had (in fact, we would still be planting crops with wooden sticks because Thog got trampled trying to chase some wildebeest off of his early attempts at farming).
  - Retra 9y ago
    Nobody is denouncing it because it isn't new, they're just saying that they shouldn't claim it's a new kind of experience when it doesn't really seem like a new kind of experience.
  - fineline 9y ago
    Wooden sticks? Crops? Bet they took a few iterations to get right too.
- thesuitonym 9y ago
  Continuum is arguably a successful implementation of this idea, with the unfortunate handicap of being on a platform nobody wants.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    Many Windows developers do want UWP, it is Longhorn done right.
  - Joeri 9y ago
    Microsoft is giving it another go with Windows S, which is continuum without the phone part. I have a windows phone with continuum and tried it, and while it is executed quite well, it wasn't very useful due to the lack of apps. You can use any windows 10 device as a screen/keyboard/mouse, but usually the laptops I have near me are mine, so they already have everything I need. If it had an ability to carry a self-contained programming environment I might have played around with it more. It does make a fine fallback presenting device. You put your powerpoint slides on the phone, and if all else fails you can project your slides to any w10 laptop that's near.
- toast0 9y ago
  It may not be new to the world, but it's likely new to users. Many recycled ideas go on to change the world in a second (or third, or nth) attempt.
- komali2 9y ago
  Did Ubuntu Phone ever actually work?
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    Yes.

by xrisk 9y ago

cwyers 9y ago

Motorola Atrix, Ubuntu Phone, Windows Phone 10 has Continuum. It's been tried before.

xrisk 9y ago
I stand corrected then.
ruleabidinguser 9y ago
I don't think this makes sense until phones are basically as fast as current laptops.
- thatcat 9y ago
  The flagship phone for this OS is the nexus 5 which uses a 2.26 Ghz quad core qualcomm chip and has 2 gb ram. The hw limitation seems to be the low ram limiting the number of memory heavy desktop apps you can run. Definitely not a video editing rig and vbox doesn't work on arm hosts, but this is good for spread sheets / typing up papers / scanning things with your camera and quickly editing them on a desktop with out any data transfer hassles.
  - petecox 9y ago
    Exactly, the complaint of power users is that "it'll never be as powerful as my Core i7 desktop". Were a phone solution seamless enough to dock into my kvm switch, I'd power up my 'workstation' far less often.
  - ksk 9y ago
    The CPU speed for all mobile devices is deceptive. You can't actually run the CPU at that speed for anything but the tiniest amount of time, without immediately running into the throttling brick wall.
- ghostly_s 9y ago
  Doesn't Apple have laptops in their current lineup which are less powerful than their top of the line phone?
  - LeoNatan25 9y ago
    The MacBook isn't a very strong machine. Wouldn't be surprised if A10 beats it even in single-core performance.
disconnected 9y ago
And now, also Samsung DeX, but that one requires a Galaxy S8 and a special dock.
- rtkwe 9y ago
  The dock is really just breaking out the USB-C port to the various docks no reason it couldn't be replicated with a USB-C hub other than software lockin. Not sure there's any reason it couldn't be done with any other phone that has USB-C either.
  - wvenable 9y ago
    I think the big factor with the DeX dock is the big fan that runs to cool off the phone while it's in that mode.
barce 9y ago
Yeah, but these would never work with VR. The moment phones became capable of delivering smooth VR, i.e. smooth graphics, the phone PC became a strong possibility for quotidian tasks.
ygjb 9y ago
Yes, and it took around 20 years to go from the patent for the first underpinnings of applications for phones other than communication in the 1970s to Simon Personal Communicator in the early 90s, and then another 10-15 years for the first smart phones to emerge. If people gave up because it "had been tried before", we wouldn't have any of the technology we had (in fact, we would still be planting crops with wooden sticks because Thog got trampled trying to chase some wildebeest off of his early attempts at farming).
- Retra 9y ago
  Nobody is denouncing it because it isn't new, they're just saying that they shouldn't claim it's a new kind of experience when it doesn't really seem like a new kind of experience.
- fineline 9y ago
  Wooden sticks? Crops? Bet they took a few iterations to get right too.
thesuitonym 9y ago
Continuum is arguably a successful implementation of this idea, with the unfortunate handicap of being on a platform nobody wants.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  Many Windows developers do want UWP, it is Longhorn done right.
- Joeri 9y ago
  Microsoft is giving it another go with Windows S, which is continuum without the phone part. I have a windows phone with continuum and tried it, and while it is executed quite well, it wasn't very useful due to the lack of apps. You can use any windows 10 device as a screen/keyboard/mouse, but usually the laptops I have near me are mine, so they already have everything I need. If it had an ability to carry a self-contained programming environment I might have played around with it more. It does make a fine fallback presenting device. You put your powerpoint slides on the phone, and if all else fails you can project your slides to any w10 laptop that's near.
toast0 9y ago
It may not be new to the world, but it's likely new to users. Many recycled ideas go on to change the world in a second (or third, or nth) attempt.
komali2 9y ago
Did Ubuntu Phone ever actually work?
- jacquesm 9y ago
  Yes.