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Yeah. A simple donation to the local municipality would have gotten this requirement waived. I once heard of a company getting past height restrictions by simpl

Yeah. A simple donation to the local municipality would have gotten this requirement waived. I once heard of a company getting past height restrictions by simply buying the town a few new firetrucks.

theparanoid 9y ago
Intel did that for their Folsom campus.
thegranderson 9y ago
In what way is this "donation" not a bribe? Just because it goes to the government at large vs. an individual?
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- wayn3 9y ago
  I guess the difference is that a bribe would go to an individual. As in - an individual would then be doing something that is in conflict with what the organization he's working for would otherwise do. If you just "bribe" the organization, there's no conflict of interest. "We want to build this" "we dont want you to" "heres some money" "ok". Its a bit like negotiating with the CEO vs. bribing a lone DBA about getting access to proprietary data.
- jimlawruk 9y ago
  A bribe is secret and typically illegal. This type of exception to the rule would be completely public and could be debated, discussed, voted on, etc.
brudgers 9y ago
The equipment loadout of the local fire service is often a factor in building height limits. For example there are building heights below which a fire service does not need ladder trucks but at a certain point, public safety demands ladder trucks be available. Even if a fire service has ladder trucks, the existing ladder trucks may be berthed outside the area served by the local fire station and therefore the fire service cannot provide an appropriate response time and needs another ladder truck. Because ladder trucks are big, this may mean that the local fire station needs to be expanded to house the ladder truck. Providing a ladder truck and possibly funds may, in some cases, remove the reasons for the height restrictions...with the premise that height restrictions are occasionally the result of careful consideration rather than or in addition to nimbyism.

Yeah. A simple donation to the local municipality would have gotten this requirement waived. I once heard of a company getting past height restrictions by simply buying the town a few new firetrucks.

theparanoid 9y ago

Intel did that for their Folsom campus.

thegranderson 9y ago

In what way is this "donation" not a bribe? Just because it goes to the government at large vs. an individual?

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wayn3 9y ago
I guess the difference is that a bribe would go to an individual. As in - an individual would then be doing something that is in conflict with what the organization he's working for would otherwise do. If you just "bribe" the organization, there's no conflict of interest. "We want to build this" "we dont want you to" "heres some money" "ok". Its a bit like negotiating with the CEO vs. bribing a lone DBA about getting access to proprietary data.
jimlawruk 9y ago
A bribe is secret and typically illegal. This type of exception to the rule would be completely public and could be debated, discussed, voted on, etc.

brudgers 9y ago

The equipment loadout of the local fire service is often a factor in building height limits. For example there are building heights below which a fire service does not need ladder trucks but at a certain point, public safety demands ladder trucks be available. Even if a fire service has ladder trucks, the existing ladder trucks may be berthed outside the area served by the local fire station and therefore the fire service cannot provide an appropriate response time and needs another ladder truck. Because ladder trucks are big, this may mean that the local fire station needs to be expanded to house the ladder truck. Providing a ladder truck and possibly funds may, in some cases, remove the reasons for the height restrictions...with the premise that height restrictions are occasionally the result of careful consideration rather than or in addition to nimbyism.