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Ogg Vorbis is superior in every way, and I really don't care about ancient electronics, so I'm perfectly happy encoding all my music into .ogg since all my devi

Ogg Vorbis is superior in every way, and I really don't care about ancient electronics, so I'm perfectly happy encoding all my music into .ogg since all my devices, including my car, are compatible with it.

praneshp 9y ago
If you call "number of people using the format"part of the featureset, mp3 is superior in one aspect at least.
- Natanael_L 9y ago
  Network effect
oculusthrift 9y ago
honestly thought you were being sarcastic when i read that
paulddraper 9y ago
"Ogg Vorbis is superior in every way [except ways] I don't really care about"
- Arizhel 9y ago
  The only way it's not superior is compatibility with ancient electronics, just like I said before. What's the problem? Why should I care about playing my music on 15-year-old hardware? I don't have any such hardware any more, so I really don't care about it. In fact, 10+ years ago when I still had a portable music player, I had an iRiver H340. Even it played my Oggs!! So where are these shitty players that can't play Oggs? I've never had one. And these days, they don't seem to exist. My Android phone plays them just fine, out of the box. My car even plays them right off a USB thumb drive. And of course my computer plays them easily. So again, why should I give two shits about compatibility with some ancient devices that I don't have, and likely not many other people do either? Do you only use software that'll run on Windows 2000?
  - paulddraper 9y ago
    > Do you only use software that'll run on Windows 2000? Mainstream support for Windows 2000 ended twelve years ago. > So where are these shitty players that can't play Oggs? I've never had one. Apple is selling a music player called "iPod" right now. Perhaps you've heard of it. Updated in 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Touch_(6th_generation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Touch_(6th_generation) Guess what iPods don't support? OGG. Guess what iPods do support? MP3.
    - Arizhel 9y ago
      If you want to buy some shitty portable music player that can't handle proper open-source file formats, that's your choice. I've had a bunch of devices from all sorts of other, better manufacturers that ALL supported Oggs. BTW, "Ogg" isn't an acronym.
Kadin 9y ago
Similarly, Loglan is superior to English in every way.
- Arizhel 9y ago
  If all English speakers also spoke Loglan, except for the tiny portion of the population that's over 100 years old, then your analogy would make sense.

praneshp 9y ago

If you call "number of people using the format"part of the featureset, mp3 is superior in one aspect at least.

Natanael_L 9y ago
Network effect

oculusthrift 9y ago

honestly thought you were being sarcastic when i read that

paulddraper 9y ago

"Ogg Vorbis is superior in every way [except ways] I don't really care about"

Arizhel 9y ago
The only way it's not superior is compatibility with ancient electronics, just like I said before. What's the problem? Why should I care about playing my music on 15-year-old hardware? I don't have any such hardware any more, so I really don't care about it. In fact, 10+ years ago when I still had a portable music player, I had an iRiver H340. Even it played my Oggs!! So where are these shitty players that can't play Oggs? I've never had one. And these days, they don't seem to exist. My Android phone plays them just fine, out of the box. My car even plays them right off a USB thumb drive. And of course my computer plays them easily. So again, why should I give two shits about compatibility with some ancient devices that I don't have, and likely not many other people do either? Do you only use software that'll run on Windows 2000?
- paulddraper 9y ago
  > Do you only use software that'll run on Windows 2000? Mainstream support for Windows 2000 ended twelve years ago. > So where are these shitty players that can't play Oggs? I've never had one. Apple is selling a music player called "iPod" right now. Perhaps you've heard of it. Updated in 2015 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Touch_(6th_generation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Touch_(6th_generation) Guess what iPods don't support? OGG. Guess what iPods do support? MP3.
  - Arizhel 9y ago
    If you want to buy some shitty portable music player that can't handle proper open-source file formats, that's your choice. I've had a bunch of devices from all sorts of other, better manufacturers that ALL supported Oggs. BTW, "Ogg" isn't an acronym.

Kadin 9y ago

Similarly, Loglan is superior to English in every way.

Arizhel 9y ago
If all English speakers also spoke Loglan, except for the tiny portion of the population that's over 100 years old, then your analogy would make sense.