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Ladies and gentlemen, an example of someone who doesn't understand the relevance of established social norms! You really don't understand the difference betwee

by sbarre 9y ago

Ladies and gentlemen, an example of someone who doesn't understand the relevance of established social norms! You really don't understand the difference between ping-pong and sex? Either you really like ping-pong, or you really don't like sex.. ;-) Listen, you may have somewhat of an academic point here, but you're ignoring the fact that way more people - men and women - would be uncomfortable with open discussion of co-workers' sexual activities, much less knowing or condoning that it happens in the workplace, than having a ping pong table in the break room. Is this a good or a bad thing? it actually doesn't matter, because it is what it is. It is a social norm. Can it be changed? Sure, maybe.. But you will only present yourself poorly if you think that telling people their concerns don't matter, or are "bullshit" is the way to change this.

vikasg 9y ago
He doesn't understand because he's a complete _tablua rasa_ --- ignorant of all history and society. Not realizing that sex comes with a lot of baggage and that consequences of sex are dramatically different for a man than a woman.
- danso 9y ago
  Or maybe he's just from one of those foreign cultures in which you just can't get a good ping-pong game in unless you're willing to put a ring on it, or at least pay for a nice dinner.
- flukus 9y ago
  > He doesn't understand because he's a complete _tablua rasa_ --- ignorant of all history and society. It's a good technique to evaluate of your poisition is rational or not, you should try it sometime. "That's how it's always been done" is an awful argument for anything.
flukus 9y ago
> Is this a good or a bad thing? it actually doesn't matter, because it is what it is. It is a social norm. So basically "that's how we've always done things". That's a terrible justification for anything, particularly anything to do with sex and it's history of persecution. It wasn't long ago that being openly gay went against the social norms. > Can it be changed? Sure, maybe.. But you will only present yourself poorly if you think that telling people their concerns don't matter, or are "bullshit" is the way to change this. What concerns? I don't see anyone listing concerns or discussing the consequences of being more open about sex in the workplace, just a lot of statements that you can't or shouldn't do it.
- sbarre 9y ago
  It's not my place to educate you about why existing social norms should at least matter to you, regardless of whether you agree with them or not, so I'll let you learn those lessons on your own. Also comparing sex in the workplace with gay persecution makes you look like an idiot. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's a completely unreasonable comparison. Are you going to compare it to slavery next? We're done here.

by sbarre 9y ago

vikasg 9y ago

He doesn't understand because he's a complete _tablua rasa_ --- ignorant of all history and society. Not realizing that sex comes with a lot of baggage and that consequences of sex are dramatically different for a man than a woman.

danso 9y ago
Or maybe he's just from one of those foreign cultures in which you just can't get a good ping-pong game in unless you're willing to put a ring on it, or at least pay for a nice dinner.
flukus 9y ago
> He doesn't understand because he's a complete _tablua rasa_ --- ignorant of all history and society. It's a good technique to evaluate of your poisition is rational or not, you should try it sometime. "That's how it's always been done" is an awful argument for anything.

flukus 9y ago

> Is this a good or a bad thing? it actually doesn't matter, because it is what it is. It is a social norm. So basically "that's how we've always done things". That's a terrible justification for anything, particularly anything to do with sex and it's history of persecution. It wasn't long ago that being openly gay went against the social norms. > Can it be changed? Sure, maybe.. But you will only present yourself poorly if you think that telling people their concerns don't matter, or are "bullshit" is the way to change this. What concerns? I don't see anyone listing concerns or discussing the consequences of being more open about sex in the workplace, just a lot of statements that you can't or shouldn't do it.

sbarre 9y ago
It's not my place to educate you about why existing social norms should at least matter to you, regardless of whether you agree with them or not, so I'll let you learn those lessons on your own. Also comparing sex in the workplace with gay persecution makes you look like an idiot. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's a completely unreasonable comparison. Are you going to compare it to slavery next? We're done here.