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lets take this a step further. how did NYTimes and Reuters confirm the story? did they use the same anonymous source? did they use a different anonymous source?

lets take this a step further. how did NYTimes and Reuters confirm the story? did they use the same anonymous source? did they use a different anonymous source? How would they even know if its an independent confirmation if the source is anonymous in the first place or merely 1 source giving the same information to different news outlets to create the perception that the story has been confirmed independently? this is sockpuppeting 101: it happens every day on reddit and other internet forums. what makes you think that its not possible when we're talking about russia and the united states?

URSpider94 9y ago
Yes, it's possible they were all punked. However, these are all very experienced news organizations with a hundred-odd Pulitzer Prizes each. I trust them to do their homework and check with independent sources. Additionally, it's very interesting to see that McMaster's denial does not refute the core point of the news pieces -- he says that Trump did not disclose sources and methods. Nobody is alleging that he did -- the allegation is that he disclosed intel that is so specific that it could only have come from one source.
URSpider94 9y ago
To add, the story in the NYTimes is getting a lot more specific: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/trump-russia-classified-information-isis.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/trump-russia-... Lots of details as to specifically what Trump shared that was troublesome, and how McMaster's denial didn't address the issue.
Analemma_ 9y ago
Now that Trump has admitted he shared the info (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/trump-confirms-sharing-classified-intel-with-russias-foreign-minister/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/trump-confirms-s...), do you retract these comments?
- ryanx435 9y ago
  why would i retract comments that boil down to "question everything." i never took a side in the entire argument.

URSpider94 9y ago

Yes, it's possible they were all punked. However, these are all very experienced news organizations with a hundred-odd Pulitzer Prizes each. I trust them to do their homework and check with independent sources. Additionally, it's very interesting to see that McMaster's denial does not refute the core point of the news pieces -- he says that Trump did not disclose sources and methods. Nobody is alleging that he did -- the allegation is that he disclosed intel that is so specific that it could only have come from one source.

URSpider94 9y ago

To add, the story in the NYTimes is getting a lot more specific: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/trump-russia-classified-information-isis.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/trump-russia-... Lots of details as to specifically what Trump shared that was troublesome, and how McMaster's denial didn't address the issue.

Analemma_ 9y ago

Now that Trump has admitted he shared the info (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/trump-confirms-sharing-classified-intel-with-russias-foreign-minister/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/trump-confirms-s...), do you retract these comments?

ryanx435 9y ago
why would i retract comments that boil down to "question everything." i never took a side in the entire argument.