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I have lived in China forever and I have no idea what you are talking about. Every laptop that I have owned came with legal copy of Windows with it. My family

by bgee 9y ago

I have lived in China forever and I have no idea what you are talking about. Every laptop that I have owned came with legal copy of Windows with it. My family members have brought numerous legal copies (discs) from a local "computer district" as well.

ghostly_s 9y ago
How do you confirm this?
- bgee 9y ago
  Is the Windows sticker on a laptop good enough?
  - bgee 9y ago
    Why is this downvoted? I thought the Windows sticker on a laptop is the best proof that Windows is pre-installed...
    - wernercd 9y ago
      The question isn't "Is Windows installed"... it's "Is the install of Windows on a laptop legal and legitimate". A sticker says Windows is installed... it doesn't say anything about legality. OP said "I couldn't find a laptop with a legal copy of Windows installed". Responder said "Everything I got was legal, and had no issues buying new discs with legal licenses".
      - bgee 9y ago
        OP said "it was literally impossible to buy a computer with a legal copy of windows installed on it". Responder said "it is quite possible (even common) to buy a computer with a legal copy of windows installed on it" and asked "is a Windows sticker on a laptop good proof for legally installed Windows?" with the assumption that pirated Windows does not come with a sticker. PS: That assumption turns out to be debatable [0]. [0]: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21m2.8232368.0.0.TlUMnH&id=40631876236 https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21m2.8232368.0.0.TlUMn...
        rdudek 9y ago
        Don't most manufacturers pre-image OS on computers at the factory now? They usually have an option to create recover disk/sb drive.
        neurostimulant 9y ago
        In Asia most brands sell the laptops without OS for cheaper price compared to the same model but with windows preinstalled. Some stores may install a bootleg version for free or even fake it as a genuine Windows install.
    - sbierwagen 9y ago
      Holographic stickers are routinely counterfeited in China: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=283 http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=283 Last time I had to buy Windows install media I went directly to a Microsoft corporate store.
Apfel 9y ago
I'm not sure how we can successfully argue about this when it's based on experience... For the record, I was visiting Gangding in Guangzhou (the computer District) several times between 2012-14. Every vendor I found was baffled by my request and didn't know why I would ever want this. I bought my laptop in 2014 in Hong Kong after my UK-bought one died.
- bgee 9y ago
  Here are the instructions from HP[0], Lenovo [1] and Dell [2] respectively on how to reinstall the Windows that comes with the machine. So it's not really "based on experience". [0] https://support.hp.com/cn-zh/document/c01902861 https://support.hp.com/cn-zh/document/c01902861 [1] http://iknow.lenovo.com/detail/dc_038423.html http://iknow.lenovo.com/detail/dc_038423.html [2] http://www.dell.com/support/contents/cn/zh/cnbsd1/article/Product-Support/Self-support-Knowledgebase/software-and-downloads/dell-backup-solutions/Media-backup http://www.dell.com/support/contents/cn/zh/cnbsd1/article/Pr...
  - benchaney 9y ago
    I don't think you understand what "based on experience" means in this context.
    - bgee 9y ago
      I was trying to say that this argument can be based on fact instead of experience.
      - deleted 9y ago
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  - Apfel 9y ago
    I'm not saying my experience is more correct or better than yours. I have no idea where you were/are in China, but it was impossible to buy a genuine copy of Windows or a computer with it installed when I was in Guangzhou.

by bgee 9y ago

ghostly_s 9y ago

How do you confirm this?

bgee 9y ago
Is the Windows sticker on a laptop good enough?
- bgee 9y ago
  Why is this downvoted? I thought the Windows sticker on a laptop is the best proof that Windows is pre-installed...
  - wernercd 9y ago
    The question isn't "Is Windows installed"... it's "Is the install of Windows on a laptop legal and legitimate". A sticker says Windows is installed... it doesn't say anything about legality. OP said "I couldn't find a laptop with a legal copy of Windows installed". Responder said "Everything I got was legal, and had no issues buying new discs with legal licenses".
    - bgee 9y ago
      OP said "it was literally impossible to buy a computer with a legal copy of windows installed on it". Responder said "it is quite possible (even common) to buy a computer with a legal copy of windows installed on it" and asked "is a Windows sticker on a laptop good proof for legally installed Windows?" with the assumption that pirated Windows does not come with a sticker. PS: That assumption turns out to be debatable [0]. [0]: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21m2.8232368.0.0.TlUMnH&id=40631876236 https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21m2.8232368.0.0.TlUMn...
      - rdudek 9y ago
        Don't most manufacturers pre-image OS on computers at the factory now? They usually have an option to create recover disk/sb drive.
        neurostimulant 9y ago
        In Asia most brands sell the laptops without OS for cheaper price compared to the same model but with windows preinstalled. Some stores may install a bootleg version for free or even fake it as a genuine Windows install.
  - sbierwagen 9y ago
    Holographic stickers are routinely counterfeited in China: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=283 http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=283 Last time I had to buy Windows install media I went directly to a Microsoft corporate store.

Apfel 9y ago

I'm not sure how we can successfully argue about this when it's based on experience... For the record, I was visiting Gangding in Guangzhou (the computer District) several times between 2012-14. Every vendor I found was baffled by my request and didn't know why I would ever want this. I bought my laptop in 2014 in Hong Kong after my UK-bought one died.

bgee 9y ago
Here are the instructions from HP[0], Lenovo [1] and Dell [2] respectively on how to reinstall the Windows that comes with the machine. So it's not really "based on experience". [0] https://support.hp.com/cn-zh/document/c01902861 https://support.hp.com/cn-zh/document/c01902861 [1] http://iknow.lenovo.com/detail/dc_038423.html http://iknow.lenovo.com/detail/dc_038423.html [2] http://www.dell.com/support/contents/cn/zh/cnbsd1/article/Product-Support/Self-support-Knowledgebase/software-and-downloads/dell-backup-solutions/Media-backup http://www.dell.com/support/contents/cn/zh/cnbsd1/article/Pr...
- benchaney 9y ago
  I don't think you understand what "based on experience" means in this context.
  - bgee 9y ago
    I was trying to say that this argument can be based on fact instead of experience.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
- Apfel 9y ago
  I'm not saying my experience is more correct or better than yours. I have no idea where you were/are in China, but it was impossible to buy a genuine copy of Windows or a computer with it installed when I was in Guangzhou.