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Depending on who you ask Java did replace everything. Consider the Tiobe Index [1]. Java Beats out everything, including C and C+++ when added together. All thr

by sqeaky 9y ago

Depending on who you ask Java did replace everything. Consider the Tiobe Index [1]. Java Beats out everything, including C and C+++ when added together. All three are growing, but not nearly as fast as everything else is growing to the point it looks likes they are shrinking. There is an absolutely enormous amount of Java out there. https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/

goatlover 9y ago
If you mean Java replaced C/C++ as the most widely used language, at least according to one index, then that's one thing. So if someday Rust became as popular, great for Rust. But that's not the same thing as claiming that Rust will be the One True Programming language in use that will cause all the other language communities to die out and convert to Rust. That's what is being claimed above, and what some in the Java community were claiming in the 90s. Also, probably some in the Javascript community these days. But it's never happened. If there was the One True Language to rule them all, then Lisp, C++ or Haskell would have done it by now. The point with Java is that even though it was targeting the C/C++ crowd specifically, and it became widely popular, did not cause C/C++ to die.
- kibwen 9y ago
  > that's not the same thing as claiming that Rust will be the One True Programming language Again, who is claiming this? Can you link me?
  - goatlover 9y ago
    Just go up several posts and read the end of the one I initially replied to.
    - sqeaky 9y ago
      I wasn't claiming it and I even qualified my statement. I am not sure what more I could to make it clear that no languages have actually been replaced, while retaining a nuanced message that many people see replacements depending on their perspective. Then I even cited source to back it up with some some numbers. If you want to argue with some several post up, please go several posts up. If you want to argue against me, than please do so on the merits of what I said.

by sqeaky 9y ago

goatlover 9y ago

If you mean Java replaced C/C++ as the most widely used language, at least according to one index, then that's one thing. So if someday Rust became as popular, great for Rust. But that's not the same thing as claiming that Rust will be the One True Programming language in use that will cause all the other language communities to die out and convert to Rust. That's what is being claimed above, and what some in the Java community were claiming in the 90s. Also, probably some in the Javascript community these days. But it's never happened. If there was the One True Language to rule them all, then Lisp, C++ or Haskell would have done it by now. The point with Java is that even though it was targeting the C/C++ crowd specifically, and it became widely popular, did not cause C/C++ to die.

kibwen 9y ago
> that's not the same thing as claiming that Rust will be the One True Programming language Again, who is claiming this? Can you link me?
- goatlover 9y ago
  Just go up several posts and read the end of the one I initially replied to.
  - sqeaky 9y ago
    I wasn't claiming it and I even qualified my statement. I am not sure what more I could to make it clear that no languages have actually been replaced, while retaining a nuanced message that many people see replacements depending on their perspective. Then I even cited source to back it up with some some numbers. If you want to argue with some several post up, please go several posts up. If you want to argue against me, than please do so on the merits of what I said.