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> [...] men earn more [...] women live longer [...] It is apposite that feminists/SJWs think the first issue is something that needs to be solved, but the secon
by gjm11 9y ago
> [...] men earn more [...] women live longer [...] It is apposite that feminists/SJWs think the first issue is something that needs to be solved, but the second issue isn't.
It's not perfectly clear what your objection is, but if it's the sort of thing I guess then I think you're wrong, for two reasons.
Reason 1
Here are some more things "feminists/SJWs" mostly don't see as problems to be solved: Men are taller. Men are stronger. Men score better in mental-rotation speed tests.
These are all advantages men have over women (you might disagree about the first, but all else equal it generally seems to be an advantage to be taller). So why are "feminists/SJWs" not trying to change them? Because, at least so it seems, they are fairly direct consequences of biology and are not going to be changed by any plausible sort of social action; especially not if you want them changed by making things better for women rather than by making them worse for men.
I suggest that this is also a reason why "feminists/SJWs" are not making noise about men having shorter lifespans than women. It seems like a biological rather than a social thing -- it's not like men have shorter lifespans because women keep shooting them -- and so the sort of activism that defines "feminists/SJWs" isn't likely to make a difference to it.
(I bet there are some people who would describe themselves as, or at least assent when others describe them as, "feminist/SJW", and who are working on improving men's lifespans. Those people would be doctors, biologists, and medical researchers. But they aren't doing that work as "feminists/SJWs"; why should they be?)
Reason 2*
Let's suppose, arguendo, that reason 1 doesn't work out somehow; let's in fact pretend that women's longer lifespans are as plausibly the result of discrimination as men's higher pay. Would that mean that "feminists/SJWs" are being inconsistent or insincere if they focus on making things better for women, even though there are things that could be made better for men as well?
Of course not. People specialize, and there's nothing wrong with that. And part of what it means to call someone a "feminist/SJW" is that they have chosen to give their attention to problems faced by traditionally-marginalized groups in general, or women in particular. What's the problem with that?
- belorn 9y ago> men having shorter lifespans than women. It seems like a biological rather than a social thing There is plenty of signs from research that point it towards a social thing and not biological. 1# Society values men for their ability to earn money. Women are valued for their social network. Successful aging is correlated to having a strong social network since it reduces stress. 2# Dating success for men is correlated to successful risk taking in maximizing earning potential. For women it is correlated to maximize personal health. 3# Studies on the health care system has shown to tendency to underdiagnose health issues for men while the opposite for women. Suicide is still the primary cause of death for men until around age 60.