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It was marked as a dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14342198 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14342198

by jswrenn 9y ago

midgetjones 9y ago
It doesn't look like that particular link has been previously posted though.
- dang 9y ago
  Multiple articles on the same story can get flagged as dupes even though they come from different sites/links. The test isn't "is this URL unique", it's "does this story add significant new information". That dates from the Snowden storm of 2013, when the HN front page was dominated by copycat articles that added nothing new, and were just follow-ups to other stories which had already been discussed. Many users disliked that and we realized they were right and came up with the 'significant new information' test in response. It works surprisingly well.
  - midgetjones 9y ago
    Interesting, thanks.
smcl 9y ago
... of a submission which got flagged and disappeared
camillomiller 9y ago
Which was flagged... Why? Said dupe was ON TOP of the home page, whereas the other entry was definitively not popular. Result: the news has been buried. Am I allowed to say I smell something foul?
- probably_wrong 9y ago
  Of course you are allowed to say that, but at the same time, I would have totally flagged that story if I had seen it for the same reasons I flagged this one: I don't live in the US, I don't care about politics, and I have no interest in random rumors.
  - midgetjones 9y ago
    Plenty of other people thought the opposite and got this thread on to the front page though. Brilliantly, this also got posted by the twitterbot before it was flagged https://twitter.com/newsycombinator/status/864149156004335617 https://twitter.com/newsycombinator/status/86414915600433561...
    - dang 9y ago
      > the twitterbot Your use of the definite article compels me to point out that that isn't official at all. Plenty of people do third-party things with HN stuff. We mostly don't mind and we also mostly don't know.
      - midgetjones 9y ago
        My apologies for making assumptions :)
  - camillomiller 9y ago
    This same thread has bene flagged after rising to the top of the home page... What the heck?
    - dang 9y ago
      Before putting out a volley of "what the heck", "something smells foul", etc., posts, it might be good to familiarize yourself with how HN works. Users flag stories all the time. This is a community action. It's completely routine. So is moderators marking stories as duplicate when they've already had significant attention on HN. The (non-)controversy here boils down to (a) users disagree about what belongs on HN, and (b) not every user sees every thread. Those are structural issues in the sense that they follow inevitably from the structure of the site.

It was marked as a dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14342198 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14342198

midgetjones 9y ago

It doesn't look like that particular link has been previously posted though.

dang 9y ago
Multiple articles on the same story can get flagged as dupes even though they come from different sites/links. The test isn't "is this URL unique", it's "does this story add significant new information". That dates from the Snowden storm of 2013, when the HN front page was dominated by copycat articles that added nothing new, and were just follow-ups to other stories which had already been discussed. Many users disliked that and we realized they were right and came up with the 'significant new information' test in response. It works surprisingly well.
- midgetjones 9y ago
  Interesting, thanks.

smcl 9y ago

... of a submission which got flagged and disappeared

camillomiller 9y ago

Which was flagged... Why? Said dupe was ON TOP of the home page, whereas the other entry was definitively not popular. Result: the news has been buried. Am I allowed to say I smell something foul?

probably_wrong 9y ago
Of course you are allowed to say that, but at the same time, I would have totally flagged that story if I had seen it for the same reasons I flagged this one: I don't live in the US, I don't care about politics, and I have no interest in random rumors.
- midgetjones 9y ago
  Plenty of other people thought the opposite and got this thread on to the front page though. Brilliantly, this also got posted by the twitterbot before it was flagged https://twitter.com/newsycombinator/status/864149156004335617 https://twitter.com/newsycombinator/status/86414915600433561...
  - dang 9y ago
    > the twitterbot Your use of the definite article compels me to point out that that isn't official at all. Plenty of people do third-party things with HN stuff. We mostly don't mind and we also mostly don't know.
    - midgetjones 9y ago
      My apologies for making assumptions :)
- camillomiller 9y ago
  This same thread has bene flagged after rising to the top of the home page... What the heck?
  - dang 9y ago
    Before putting out a volley of "what the heck", "something smells foul", etc., posts, it might be good to familiarize yourself with how HN works. Users flag stories all the time. This is a community action. It's completely routine. So is moderators marking stories as duplicate when they've already had significant attention on HN. The (non-)controversy here boils down to (a) users disagree about what belongs on HN, and (b) not every user sees every thread. Those are structural issues in the sense that they follow inevitably from the structure of the site.