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It's a lot more than "simply pro-Islam" as you say http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10981050/The-evidence-shows-that-Cage-is-a-pro-terrorist

by adnam 9y ago

It's a lot more than "simply pro-Islam" as you say http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10981050/The-evidence-shows-that-Cage-is-a-pro-terrorist-group.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/1098105...

valuearb 9y ago
can't tell from this article, which reads like an editorial and is extremely vague on actual facts.
fictioncircle 9y ago
> It's a lot more than "simply pro-Islam" as you say http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/1098105.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/1098105.... So your argument is torture is OK because they are convicted terrorists? Or that the US military is pro-Terrorist? > For example, Cage is animated about the case of Aafia Siddiqui, jailed for 86 years in the US for attempting to murder US officials in Afghanistan and assaulting those who tried to stop her. Siddiqui had wide-ranging links to al-Qaeda and was married to a key plotter behind the 9/11 attacks. At the beginning of her trial she said that jurors should be "subject to genetic testing" to see if they were Zionist or Israeli. She is no terror suspect – her guilt was proved in a court of law. Yet Cage’s profile on Siddiqui – which misses literally all this out – says it has "dedicated itself" to freeing her. > Aafia Siddiqui and her three children were kidnapped from the streets of Karachi in March 2003. Since then they have been subjected to enforced disappearances, torture and ill-treatment beyond measure. Cageprisoners has dedicated itself to campaigning for Aafia and her family in order to help secure their release and expose those involved in their abuse. > Others that Cage support include Djamel Beghal, who, following allegations of a plot to blow up the US embassy in Paris, was jailed in France in 2005 for "belonging to a criminal association in relation to preparing an act of terrorism"; and Nizar Trabelsi, convicted in Belgium as part of an al-Qaeda plot to carry out a suicide attack against a military base there holding US soldiers. > Le Point reported that the Emirati police had been sharing information with the French authorities since the beginning of August 2001. Questions being asked of Beghal confirmed for him that it was the French who were feeding information to the Emirati police during his torture and abuse. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-dined-pentagon-months.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-... > Anwar Al-Awlaki may be the first American on the CIA's kill or capture list, but he was also a lunch guest of military brass at the Pentagon within months of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, Fox News has learned.
- adnam 9y ago
  > So your argument is torture is OK because blah blah blah No, it is not.
  - fictioncircle 9y ago
    > No, it is not. Then your assertion they are pro-terrorist doesn't make any sense. Helping to free people who were tortured at some point during their captivity isn't the same as being "pro-terrorist". Being a civil rights group that opposes mistreatment of prisoners is going to lead to you representing or seeking to free unsavory people on the basis of their mistreatment (rather than their innocence).

by adnam 9y ago

valuearb 9y ago

can't tell from this article, which reads like an editorial and is extremely vague on actual facts.

fictioncircle 9y ago

> It's a lot more than "simply pro-Islam" as you say http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/1098105.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/1098105.... So your argument is torture is OK because they are convicted terrorists? Or that the US military is pro-Terrorist? > For example, Cage is animated about the case of Aafia Siddiqui, jailed for 86 years in the US for attempting to murder US officials in Afghanistan and assaulting those who tried to stop her. Siddiqui had wide-ranging links to al-Qaeda and was married to a key plotter behind the 9/11 attacks. At the beginning of her trial she said that jurors should be "subject to genetic testing" to see if they were Zionist or Israeli. She is no terror suspect – her guilt was proved in a court of law. Yet Cage’s profile on Siddiqui – which misses literally all this out – says it has "dedicated itself" to freeing her. > Aafia Siddiqui and her three children were kidnapped from the streets of Karachi in March 2003. Since then they have been subjected to enforced disappearances, torture and ill-treatment beyond measure. Cageprisoners has dedicated itself to campaigning for Aafia and her family in order to help secure their release and expose those involved in their abuse. > Others that Cage support include Djamel Beghal, who, following allegations of a plot to blow up the US embassy in Paris, was jailed in France in 2005 for "belonging to a criminal association in relation to preparing an act of terrorism"; and Nizar Trabelsi, convicted in Belgium as part of an al-Qaeda plot to carry out a suicide attack against a military base there holding US soldiers. > Le Point reported that the Emirati police had been sharing information with the French authorities since the beginning of August 2001. Questions being asked of Beghal confirmed for him that it was the French who were feeding information to the Emirati police during his torture and abuse. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-dined-pentagon-months.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-... > Anwar Al-Awlaki may be the first American on the CIA's kill or capture list, but he was also a lunch guest of military brass at the Pentagon within months of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, Fox News has learned.

adnam 9y ago
> So your argument is torture is OK because blah blah blah No, it is not.
- fictioncircle 9y ago
  > No, it is not. Then your assertion they are pro-terrorist doesn't make any sense. Helping to free people who were tortured at some point during their captivity isn't the same as being "pro-terrorist". Being a civil rights group that opposes mistreatment of prisoners is going to lead to you representing or seeking to free unsavory people on the basis of their mistreatment (rather than their innocence).