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> I have some doubts about this story.... I highly doubt any of these experiments were running the home editions of Windows I guess you've never worked with bu

> I have some doubts about this story.... I highly doubt any of these experiments were running the home editions of Windows I guess you've never worked with budget-constrained grant projects before. > I do remember you talking about going to Antarctica in the Tron subreddit 7 months on ice. > I hope that there isn't some undocumented part of the script that is disabling automatic updates. Tron doesn't perform ANY undocumented actions. Unlike most the people defending Microsoft's actions in this thread, I am pro-user and seek to minimize negative impact to users in any project I'm involved in. > Also, I am pretty sure that running home versions of Windows in contexts like this is against the Windows TOS. If you're telling me there are people in the world using Windows in violation of its TOS I'm shocked, SHOCKED to say the least.

mattmanser 9y ago
So, no offence, but this reads more like you and your colleagues destroyed a multi-million $ project by trying to save a few dollars by using Windows Home instead of Enterprise? And you're pissed at MS because of this?
- throwaway2048 9y ago
  Yeah he was practically BEGGING to be updated to windows 10 what a slut.
- eridius 9y ago
  Why are you trying to excuse Microsoft's behavior here? Who could have predicted that Microsoft would have actually done what they did and forced the Windows 10 update on everyone?
  - mattmanser 9y ago
    You may generally disagree with their update policy, but even in the worst scenario it's as much his fault as theirs. And yet he wants to completely blame them.
    - eridius 9y ago
      No, it's definitely Microsoft's fault. Even Home users should be able to have the expectation of controlling when or if major OS updates are applied. It's not like "doesn't automatically update to Windows 10" is an advertised feature of Professional.
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- vetinari 9y ago
  Enterprise edition is exactly what it says on the tin - you need to purchase certain number of licenses, and these licenses are on top of the OEM licenses. They are useless for a small team doing a research project.
- vocatus_gate 9y ago
  None taken, but you obviously didn't even read the post. These project machines are shipped (or physically hand-carried) by grad students from random universities all over the world. They come from who-knows-what IT department running who-knows-what software packages, often cobbled together JUST enough to get it working because they're so budget and time constrained that's all the resources they had to throw at it. So the lab is full of bespoke machines running a variety of very obscure software, much of it on tailored Windows boxes. So no, "me and my colleagues" didn't "destroy a multi-million dollar project by trying to save a few dollars."
MikusR 9y ago
>I guess you've never worked with budget-constrained grant projects before. Unfortunately that also comes with completely incompetent IT staff.
- vocatus_gate 9y ago
  4 years NSA, 14 years Army Signal Corps (routers/switches/radios) with multiple overseas tours, now working in an enterprise financial data center with CCNA/CISSP and a TS/SCI with full scope poly would put me a little ways out of the "completely incompetent IT staff" category.

mattmanser 9y ago

So, no offence, but this reads more like you and your colleagues destroyed a multi-million $ project by trying to save a few dollars by using Windows Home instead of Enterprise? And you're pissed at MS because of this?

throwaway2048 9y ago
Yeah he was practically BEGGING to be updated to windows 10 what a slut.
eridius 9y ago
Why are you trying to excuse Microsoft's behavior here? Who could have predicted that Microsoft would have actually done what they did and forced the Windows 10 update on everyone?
- mattmanser 9y ago
  You may generally disagree with their update policy, but even in the worst scenario it's as much his fault as theirs. And yet he wants to completely blame them.
  - eridius 9y ago
    No, it's definitely Microsoft's fault. Even Home users should be able to have the expectation of controlling when or if major OS updates are applied. It's not like "doesn't automatically update to Windows 10" is an advertised feature of Professional.
  - deleted 9y ago
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vetinari 9y ago
Enterprise edition is exactly what it says on the tin - you need to purchase certain number of licenses, and these licenses are on top of the OEM licenses. They are useless for a small team doing a research project.
vocatus_gate 9y ago
None taken, but you obviously didn't even read the post. These project machines are shipped (or physically hand-carried) by grad students from random universities all over the world. They come from who-knows-what IT department running who-knows-what software packages, often cobbled together JUST enough to get it working because they're so budget and time constrained that's all the resources they had to throw at it. So the lab is full of bespoke machines running a variety of very obscure software, much of it on tailored Windows boxes. So no, "me and my colleagues" didn't "destroy a multi-million dollar project by trying to save a few dollars."

MikusR 9y ago

>I guess you've never worked with budget-constrained grant projects before. Unfortunately that also comes with completely incompetent IT staff.

vocatus_gate 9y ago
4 years NSA, 14 years Army Signal Corps (routers/switches/radios) with multiple overseas tours, now working in an enterprise financial data center with CCNA/CISSP and a TS/SCI with full scope poly would put me a little ways out of the "completely incompetent IT staff" category.