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I've the 2012 mbp retina and the 2014 ipad air 2 and neither actually needs a replacement, they do everything they did when they came out and still support all

I've the 2012 mbp retina and the 2014 ipad air 2 and neither actually needs a replacement, they do everything they did when they came out and still support all the use cases without their outdated performances being in the way, including video editing on the mbp (gf's a vlogger) we're also stretching out their lifespan because today's equivalent offer arguably the same or worse overall experience at a higher price point, so there's that as well.

ssharp 9y ago
I have a 2008 MBP and everything runs great on it, except web browsers, which is sort of funny, tragic, and annoying all at once.
- eloisant 9y ago
  It's not because of web browsers, it's because web applications of 2017 are much more advanced (and resource-consuming) than web applications of 2008.
  - Mister_Snuggles 9y ago
    uMatrix[0] is a fantastic way to get more performance out of old computers. I have a low-end laptop that I use for travel - a ThinkPad x131e running OpenSuSE. uMatrix makes the difference between a machine that's unusable for web browsing and one that's actually fast. However, it is kind of a pain to figure out what pieces need to be allowed for a site to work and what are superfluous. Once you get it nailed down though, you can just press the lock icon to make it remember your selections. [0] https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix
  - ianai 9y ago
    The web apps of 2017 may be more advanced, but I don't see value added through that complexity.
    - criddell 9y ago
      Maybe the value is on the developer side of the equation. More layers of abstraction might enable faster development cycles or more advanced features at the cost of resource consumption.
H1Supreme 9y ago
I have an original iPad 2, and it still works (mostly) fine. The browser likes to crash on the weather.com map. But, outside of that, and few other choice crashes, it works fine. Youtube app works perfect, and I use some iOS synths like Animoog and PPG Wave without any issues. And, the battery still lasts for a long time. If I don't touch it for a few days, it's charge is where I left it. Pretty amazing. No reason to upgrade this thing.
- jakobegger 9y ago
  My mom has an iPad 2, and I made the mistake of installing iOS 7 or 8, or whichever is the latest version. Made it almost unbearable slow.
  - endemic 9y ago
    Really frustrating that newer versions of iOS inevitably run more slowly on aging hardware, Apple incessantly prompts you to update, and there's no way to roll back. Sure, I miss security fixes if I don't update, but at the point when Apple stops supporting the hardware, what's the difference?

ssharp 9y ago

I have a 2008 MBP and everything runs great on it, except web browsers, which is sort of funny, tragic, and annoying all at once.

eloisant 9y ago
It's not because of web browsers, it's because web applications of 2017 are much more advanced (and resource-consuming) than web applications of 2008.
- Mister_Snuggles 9y ago
  uMatrix[0] is a fantastic way to get more performance out of old computers. I have a low-end laptop that I use for travel - a ThinkPad x131e running OpenSuSE. uMatrix makes the difference between a machine that's unusable for web browsing and one that's actually fast. However, it is kind of a pain to figure out what pieces need to be allowed for a site to work and what are superfluous. Once you get it nailed down though, you can just press the lock icon to make it remember your selections. [0] https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix
- ianai 9y ago
  The web apps of 2017 may be more advanced, but I don't see value added through that complexity.
  - criddell 9y ago
    Maybe the value is on the developer side of the equation. More layers of abstraction might enable faster development cycles or more advanced features at the cost of resource consumption.

H1Supreme 9y ago

I have an original iPad 2, and it still works (mostly) fine. The browser likes to crash on the weather.com map. But, outside of that, and few other choice crashes, it works fine. Youtube app works perfect, and I use some iOS synths like Animoog and PPG Wave without any issues. And, the battery still lasts for a long time. If I don't touch it for a few days, it's charge is where I left it. Pretty amazing. No reason to upgrade this thing.

jakobegger 9y ago
My mom has an iPad 2, and I made the mistake of installing iOS 7 or 8, or whichever is the latest version. Made it almost unbearable slow.
- endemic 9y ago
  Really frustrating that newer versions of iOS inevitably run more slowly on aging hardware, Apple incessantly prompts you to update, and there's no way to roll back. Sure, I miss security fixes if I don't update, but at the point when Apple stops supporting the hardware, what's the difference?