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For the same reason that when liberals are in government they give you a right-wing healthcare bill and expand 2 wars to 7. Because as the now infamous Princet

For the same reason that when liberals are in government they give you a right-wing healthcare bill and expand 2 wars to 7. Because as the now infamous Princeton study demonstrated, Congress doesn't care what voters want. http://www.upworthy.com/20-years-of-data-reveals-that-congress-doesnt-care-what-you-think http://www.upworthy.com/20-years-of-data-reveals-that-congre...

anigbrowl 10y ago
I asked about conservatives, not Congress, and at any scale of governance. Please don't switch the terms of the argument like that.
- Consultant32452 10y ago
  You specifically said when conservatives are in government, not conservative voters. The answer to your question is that the people in government, regardless of whether they campaigned as conservative or liberal, do not care one iota about what the voters who put them in office want.
  - anigbrowl 10y ago
    I reject both your claim and your rhetorical switcheroo.
    - Consultant32452 10y ago
      I provided a reference. What more do you want? Go look at the provided data. It doesn't matter whether liberals or conservatives hold power. Government doesn't do liberal or conservative things. It does whatever the wealthy want. If that happens to appear conservative or liberal on the outside that's purely incidental.
      - anigbrowl 10y ago
        You're totally entitled to that opinion and I myself largely agree with public choice theory, but the post to which I responded began thus: This piece does a fairly good job of presenting the conservative point of view: that there are mountains of waste in government to cut rather than hike taxes. I agree with that perspective. And it was that agreement with conservatism as a political philosophy that I asked to explore. It's not that your opinion is invalid, but that it is unresponsive to the question that was asked. I am not interested in having an argument with you, I'm interested in knowing where that other person was coming from.
- JohnTHaller 10y ago
  It's the "ButWhatAboutX" response. It's a way of refusing to answer the question but making it seem like you are expanding on it.
  - Consultant32452 10y ago
    Geez, I even provided a reference demonstrating that both sides of the aisle have the same exact behavior of ignoring both their perceived ideologies and what voters want.

anigbrowl 10y ago

I asked about conservatives, not Congress, and at any scale of governance. Please don't switch the terms of the argument like that.

Consultant32452 10y ago
You specifically said when conservatives are in government, not conservative voters. The answer to your question is that the people in government, regardless of whether they campaigned as conservative or liberal, do not care one iota about what the voters who put them in office want.
- anigbrowl 10y ago
  I reject both your claim and your rhetorical switcheroo.
  - Consultant32452 10y ago
    I provided a reference. What more do you want? Go look at the provided data. It doesn't matter whether liberals or conservatives hold power. Government doesn't do liberal or conservative things. It does whatever the wealthy want. If that happens to appear conservative or liberal on the outside that's purely incidental.
    - anigbrowl 10y ago
      You're totally entitled to that opinion and I myself largely agree with public choice theory, but the post to which I responded began thus: This piece does a fairly good job of presenting the conservative point of view: that there are mountains of waste in government to cut rather than hike taxes. I agree with that perspective. And it was that agreement with conservatism as a political philosophy that I asked to explore. It's not that your opinion is invalid, but that it is unresponsive to the question that was asked. I am not interested in having an argument with you, I'm interested in knowing where that other person was coming from.
JohnTHaller 10y ago
It's the "ButWhatAboutX" response. It's a way of refusing to answer the question but making it seem like you are expanding on it.
- Consultant32452 10y ago
  Geez, I even provided a reference demonstrating that both sides of the aisle have the same exact behavior of ignoring both their perceived ideologies and what voters want.