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Yes, this won't affect a god damn thing - net neutrality is dead. I still submitted a public comment because I want the historical record to be clear, and as ot

Yes, this won't affect a god damn thing - net neutrality is dead. I still submitted a public comment because I want the historical record to be clear, and as others have mentioned, the ferocity of the response may cause politicians to reconsider if for no other reason than to preserve their own asses.

unityByFreedom 9y ago
> net neutrality is dead I don't think so. You know why they don't talk about this on r/the_donald? Because their propaganda attempts to raise the issue have resulted in people speaking out against the FCC's proposed policy. I'd argue that current techies haven't become conservative enough to consider removing net neutrality. In 10-20 years, when we have more competition among ISPs, perhaps this will come up again and we'll finally gut it. I don't look forward to that, but it's happened to all other forms of communication. Eventually, money works its way in deeper and deeper, finding new markets and new ways to sell what we already have. Anyway, my point is, politicians don't have a job without our vote, and when people speak out en masse about an issue, they do hear you. Trump is as big a politician as anyone. He cares what other people think and doesn't want to be viewed as the bad guy. He wants to get re-elected.
- nl 9y ago
  I'd argue that current techies haven't become conservative enough to consider removing net neutrality. There's an entire school of conservative thought where government's only role in the market is maintaining a competitive market. It's unfortunate that this voice has been lost. In 10-20 years, when we have more competition among ISPs How's that going to happen if the current duopoly reinforce their position by removing net neutrality?
  - unityByFreedom 9y ago
    > How's that going to happen if the current duopoly reinforce their position by removing net neutrality? I have a hard time imagining that we remain stuck with the status quo for more than 20 years. Markets love to move money around. Comcast is already stale -- their customer service is crap. I'm not saying that the change will come from markets, necessarily, or that the impetus for change comes from the government. I just think things will change and eventually we'll see more competition on the last mile, or, something that mitigates the current problems. And, they'll change because we care and are working to do something about these issues, not because we sit back and wait for something to happen.
    - nl 9y ago
      I lived through the tail-end of the telecom monopolies in the 1990's. I don't have much faith in the market's ability to fix things without intervention.
    - Fjolsvith 9y ago
      Isn't Google implementing a global satellite ISP service? That might be competitive enough to challenge businesses like Comcast.
dhimes 9y ago
Don't forget your Senators and Representatives. That might be a more effective route than public comment.

unityByFreedom 9y ago

> net neutrality is dead I don't think so. You know why they don't talk about this on r/the_donald? Because their propaganda attempts to raise the issue have resulted in people speaking out against the FCC's proposed policy. I'd argue that current techies haven't become conservative enough to consider removing net neutrality. In 10-20 years, when we have more competition among ISPs, perhaps this will come up again and we'll finally gut it. I don't look forward to that, but it's happened to all other forms of communication. Eventually, money works its way in deeper and deeper, finding new markets and new ways to sell what we already have. Anyway, my point is, politicians don't have a job without our vote, and when people speak out en masse about an issue, they do hear you. Trump is as big a politician as anyone. He cares what other people think and doesn't want to be viewed as the bad guy. He wants to get re-elected.

nl 9y ago
I'd argue that current techies haven't become conservative enough to consider removing net neutrality. There's an entire school of conservative thought where government's only role in the market is maintaining a competitive market. It's unfortunate that this voice has been lost. In 10-20 years, when we have more competition among ISPs How's that going to happen if the current duopoly reinforce their position by removing net neutrality?
- unityByFreedom 9y ago
  > How's that going to happen if the current duopoly reinforce their position by removing net neutrality? I have a hard time imagining that we remain stuck with the status quo for more than 20 years. Markets love to move money around. Comcast is already stale -- their customer service is crap. I'm not saying that the change will come from markets, necessarily, or that the impetus for change comes from the government. I just think things will change and eventually we'll see more competition on the last mile, or, something that mitigates the current problems. And, they'll change because we care and are working to do something about these issues, not because we sit back and wait for something to happen.
  - nl 9y ago
    I lived through the tail-end of the telecom monopolies in the 1990's. I don't have much faith in the market's ability to fix things without intervention.
  - Fjolsvith 9y ago
    Isn't Google implementing a global satellite ISP service? That might be competitive enough to challenge businesses like Comcast.

dhimes 9y ago

Don't forget your Senators and Representatives. That might be a more effective route than public comment.