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Of course they aren't, there is a huge capital cliff to make it happen. Automation is not something that happens slowly in this context. Self driving car resea
by zanny 9y ago
Of course they aren't, there is a huge capital cliff to make it happen.
Automation is not something that happens slowly in this context. Self driving car research has no impact on the auto industry until the moment tremendous savings can be had in this financial quarter at which point we see the destruction of millions of jobs.
Cell phones were not a slow burn advance. The Internet did not slowly take off. These things exploded in (economically speaking) blinks of the eye, and the same happens in every other industrial capacity for automation.
The barrier is the up front opportunity cost to bring down the wall and take the costs to that short term economic projection - as long as it costs $150k to replace a $50k truck driver, no publicly traded company is going to do that en masse. It hurts this quarters results too much to accept.
The fervor is not about slow burn automation. That has been happening since the industrial revolution, but it is important to not conflict role optimization with role obsolescence. We don't have elevator operators anymore. We still have farmers. The foresight is to see that we will have innovations that eliminate labor classes overnight, that they won't have an impact until they are deleting industries, and that the opportunity cost to get there is a pill few are willing to swallow so the outcomes get delayed. But we can see they are inevitable, in the same way climate change is an inevitable catastrophe that to many seems not to matter until New York City is under water and we have a billion humans dying of famine in a desertified equatorial region.
We are very good at creating bullshit jobs[1] to fill the gradual innovative automation. The job optimization that creeps through every domain constantly pounds us so we create more bullshit jobs to keep the economic system afloat. Instead of looking at statistics relating to peak employment, look at worker satisfaction and confidence that what they do actually means something. Those numbers are telling on how many people actually feel like they are making a real economic contribution[2].
[1] http://evonomics.com/why-capitalism-creates-pointless-jobs-david-graeber/ http://evonomics.com/why-capitalism-creates-pointless-jobs-d...
[2] https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/12/british-jobs-meaningless/ https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/12/british-jobs-meaningles...
I just want to postfix this with anyone can make up numbers or just use the numbers out there to rewrite history into their favor. You can make a legitimate argument that automation is fake, that worker satisfaction is high, and that this is all fearmongering. If so, I would ask why there is so much civil unrest surrounding it globally. The statistics and numbers might all be bullshit commissioned by biased interests, but the macroscopic behavior of people can reflect the reality. The entire global movement towards isolationist nationalism and totalitarianism is centralized on the obsolescence of people and the rise of bullshit work. People feel abandoned, unfulfilled, or forgotten. It is a growing trend. It is valuable not to ignore why that might be.
- majewsky 9y ago> as long as it costs $150k to replace a $50k truck driver, no publicly traded company is going to do that en masse. Isn't this what VC money is for?
- sigstoat 9y agoconsidering the words "publicly traded company", no. more like a bank loan or intermediate term corporate bond.
- Atheros 9y agoIf it cost $150K to replace a $50K/year truck driver then VCs would fund it. They'll then sell the solution to the publicly traded companies. > We are very good at creating bullshit jobs[1] to fill the gradual innovative automation. Midnight pizza deliverymen and administrators who decide how to spend resources are not bullshit jobs. They are both helpful and useful. > The entire global movement towards isolationist nationalism and totalitarianism is centralized on the obsolescence of people and the rise of bullshit work. People feel abandoned, unfulfilled, or forgotten. Your post doesn't make sense. The people doing the "bullshit work" aren't the ones feeling abandoned and unfulfilled. The ones promoting isolationism and nationalism are the ones lamenting the loss of their coal mining and steel production jobs, for example, which employ workers who are confident that what they do means something. Perhaps you mean that they lament the loss of these jobs? That would make sense but it doesn't seem to be very highly connected to the "bullshit jobs" argument- only the loss of satisfying jobs.
- LoonyBalloony 9y ago> Midnight pizza deliverymen and administrators who decide how to spend resources are not bullshit jobs. They are both helpful and useful. I appreciate the recognition as a pizza deliveryman. It's actually my dream job. It took me a decade of searching for work that made me happy to find it, and I was as surprised with were I found it as you (and my friends and family) are. Every day its like I'm food Santa Claus bringing joy and happiness to the whole city. Every day is food Christmas. Everyone is always so pumped to see me when I show up, and that pumps me up. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. Every other job I had I had this sense of dread going to work. Hating being there, hating a large portion of my life and wishing for my life to go faster. Granted I'm still a corporate wage slave, don't have health insurance/care, and prison is my retirement plan (healthcare/housing/food all free, and its not like the old folks home lets you leave whenever you want when you're old and senile anyways). But at least I can be a happy pizza wage slave.