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Hillary would have expanded and improved Obamacare, basically. Relevant to this article, a goal was to add a public option; along with adding optional Medicare

Hillary would have expanded and improved Obamacare, basically. Relevant to this article, a goal was to add a public option; along with adding optional Medicare coverage down to age 55 and significantly enhancing the ideas of "community health centers", which are currently pretty effective. Of course, the goals of a product often conflict with implementation realities in the process of getting it done, so not all the features would have landed, I think. Er, I mean political candidate & campaign promises, not product & features. What was I thinking? That you don't remember Hillary's policy is an artifact of her marketing combined with the media's coverage, which was not on her policies.

droithomme 9y ago
I would like to see a reference to Hillary promising to add dental coverage to Obamacare. Thanks in advance. I would also like to see a reference to Trump making the same promise as anigbrowl has claimed. Thanks in advance. It's interesting that several people in the thread are suggesting that adult dental coverage was going to be part of the ACA insurance overhaul proposals by both Hillary and Trump. I can find no reference to either candidate making such a proposal. Those claiming they did make these promises should provide references showing so.
- pnathan 9y ago
  > I would like to see a reference to Hillary promising to add dental coverage to Obamacare. Thanks in advance. Can't give that, sorry. I wanted to specifically provide the high-level claims Hillary was making, as GP couldn't recall her promises. My source is the campaign promise book, Stronger Together. Dental is not mentioned in the area I surveyed. A more policy oriented remark by HRC is found here: > We need to address the lack of access to primary health care, dental care, and mental health care by catalyzing partnerships between public health departments, health care systems, and community-based organizations. As we do, we must promote integrated mental health care, and enforce insurance coverage parity requirements to ensure that mental health care is not siloed. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb1612292 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb1612292 Clearly dental was not a headline coverage promise, unfortunately. I'm not sure it would have mattered.... With respect to Trump's promise: > DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you, Mr. President, about another promise involving Obamacare to repeal it. And you told The Washington Post that your plan to replace Obamacare will include insurance for everybody. That sounds an awful lot like universal coverage. > PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's going to be -- what my plan is is that I wanna take care of everybody. I'm not gonna leave the lower 20 percent that can't afford insurance. Just so you understand people talk about Obamacare. And I told the Republicans this, the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode. And then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and -- and the Democrats will vote for it. Believe me. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-anchor-david-muir-interviews-president/story?id=45047602 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-anchor-da...
  - droithomme 9y ago
    Thank you, I appreciate that reference. To summarize my reading, Ms. Clinton's statement to the NEJM does in fact show what has been claimed, that dental coverage was to be considered as part of ACA improvements Ms. Clinton wanted to work on. She even discusses dental specifically in a letter discussing how to "Improve the ACA". On the other hand, Mr. Trump's statements likewise don't seem to specifically support addressing problems with dental coverage and accessibility. Therefore it is reasonable to take the position that the election of Trump did in fact reduce the chances of improving dental care in the US, is it was part of Ms. Clinton's plan, but not Mr. Trump's.
    - pnathan 9y ago
      I believe Trump made some pretty grandiose promises. Now, he may have intended in good faith to follow through, but he harnessed his star to the Republican party, which has systematically opposed Obamacare since it was announced. Therefore, unless Trump decides to be genuinely maverick and jump to the Democratic policies, it will be unfortunately unlikely that his promises would be followed through. I'm kind of curious to see if Trump does that - many of the desperate voters profiled in the original article voted for him on that kind of basis.

droithomme 9y ago

I would like to see a reference to Hillary promising to add dental coverage to Obamacare. Thanks in advance. I would also like to see a reference to Trump making the same promise as anigbrowl has claimed. Thanks in advance. It's interesting that several people in the thread are suggesting that adult dental coverage was going to be part of the ACA insurance overhaul proposals by both Hillary and Trump. I can find no reference to either candidate making such a proposal. Those claiming they did make these promises should provide references showing so.

pnathan 9y ago
> I would like to see a reference to Hillary promising to add dental coverage to Obamacare. Thanks in advance. Can't give that, sorry. I wanted to specifically provide the high-level claims Hillary was making, as GP couldn't recall her promises. My source is the campaign promise book, Stronger Together. Dental is not mentioned in the area I surveyed. A more policy oriented remark by HRC is found here: > We need to address the lack of access to primary health care, dental care, and mental health care by catalyzing partnerships between public health departments, health care systems, and community-based organizations. As we do, we must promote integrated mental health care, and enforce insurance coverage parity requirements to ensure that mental health care is not siloed. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb1612292 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb1612292 Clearly dental was not a headline coverage promise, unfortunately. I'm not sure it would have mattered.... With respect to Trump's promise: > DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you, Mr. President, about another promise involving Obamacare to repeal it. And you told The Washington Post that your plan to replace Obamacare will include insurance for everybody. That sounds an awful lot like universal coverage. > PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's going to be -- what my plan is is that I wanna take care of everybody. I'm not gonna leave the lower 20 percent that can't afford insurance. Just so you understand people talk about Obamacare. And I told the Republicans this, the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode. And then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and -- and the Democrats will vote for it. Believe me. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-anchor-david-muir-interviews-president/story?id=45047602 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-anchor-da...
- droithomme 9y ago
  Thank you, I appreciate that reference. To summarize my reading, Ms. Clinton's statement to the NEJM does in fact show what has been claimed, that dental coverage was to be considered as part of ACA improvements Ms. Clinton wanted to work on. She even discusses dental specifically in a letter discussing how to "Improve the ACA". On the other hand, Mr. Trump's statements likewise don't seem to specifically support addressing problems with dental coverage and accessibility. Therefore it is reasonable to take the position that the election of Trump did in fact reduce the chances of improving dental care in the US, is it was part of Ms. Clinton's plan, but not Mr. Trump's.
  - pnathan 9y ago
    I believe Trump made some pretty grandiose promises. Now, he may have intended in good faith to follow through, but he harnessed his star to the Republican party, which has systematically opposed Obamacare since it was announced. Therefore, unless Trump decides to be genuinely maverick and jump to the Democratic policies, it will be unfortunately unlikely that his promises would be followed through. I'm kind of curious to see if Trump does that - many of the desperate voters profiled in the original article voted for him on that kind of basis.