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> take up to 50 years to fully implemen It didn't take you 50 years to get here, why would it take 50 years to to get somewhere. You also have the benefit of k

by sqeaky 9y ago

> take up to 50 years to fully implemen It didn't take you 50 years to get here, why would it take 50 years to to get somewhere. You also have the benefit of knowing what a successful system looks like, so you can avoid many pitfalls from the first attempt.

eksemplar 9y ago
We buy systems we have no clue how work. Like the system we use for telemedicine, or the system we use for electronic locks in elderly care. It's not that we don't want to know how they work. The political administration has simply decided upon a decentralized strategy in which any one can buy anything because there is a belief and trust in localized knowledge. As a central unit we don't support android because it's impossible to keep safe enough to meet EU law. This, however, doesn't mean that the system to handle electronic locks we bought last year doesn't run on android. It also doesn't integrate with our data warehouse, meaning that 800 user profiles has to be maintained manually but hey. I have 250 examples like that, but the point is that it's complicated and that there are no easy black and white solutions. Maybe it hadn't taken exactly 50 years to get where we are now, but it's certainly taken 25. We couldn't just unravel it over night, even if we wanted to.
- sqeaky 9y ago
  > We buy systems we have no clue how work. Well that doesn't seem like a good starting for any but the smallest ventures. National governments have a special interest in safety and security. Fixing this, even in a piecemeal way is surely a step in the right direction. The attitude of the your post and the higher GP post sound more like people lamenting something some natural disaster that can never change. Instead you could be looking at a system built by people and maintained by people and on some level understood by people and choose to make it better.
  - eksemplar 9y ago
    I'm pragmatic. We've been actively trying to change things for the past many years. Thanks to new EU security directive we're getting there. Progress is slow though, and it's not like we couldn't do better if the politicians wanted it. That's the thing about public administration though, citizens genuinely don't care about IT, and bottom up management simply doesn't produce fast changes in organizational culture.

by sqeaky 9y ago

eksemplar 9y ago

We buy systems we have no clue how work. Like the system we use for telemedicine, or the system we use for electronic locks in elderly care. It's not that we don't want to know how they work. The political administration has simply decided upon a decentralized strategy in which any one can buy anything because there is a belief and trust in localized knowledge. As a central unit we don't support android because it's impossible to keep safe enough to meet EU law. This, however, doesn't mean that the system to handle electronic locks we bought last year doesn't run on android. It also doesn't integrate with our data warehouse, meaning that 800 user profiles has to be maintained manually but hey. I have 250 examples like that, but the point is that it's complicated and that there are no easy black and white solutions. Maybe it hadn't taken exactly 50 years to get where we are now, but it's certainly taken 25. We couldn't just unravel it over night, even if we wanted to.

sqeaky 9y ago
> We buy systems we have no clue how work. Well that doesn't seem like a good starting for any but the smallest ventures. National governments have a special interest in safety and security. Fixing this, even in a piecemeal way is surely a step in the right direction. The attitude of the your post and the higher GP post sound more like people lamenting something some natural disaster that can never change. Instead you could be looking at a system built by people and maintained by people and on some level understood by people and choose to make it better.
- eksemplar 9y ago
  I'm pragmatic. We've been actively trying to change things for the past many years. Thanks to new EU security directive we're getting there. Progress is slow though, and it's not like we couldn't do better if the politicians wanted it. That's the thing about public administration though, citizens genuinely don't care about IT, and bottom up management simply doesn't produce fast changes in organizational culture.