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People, in general, don't like to hear/see things that challenge their world view. A good example of this is the LGBT movement. It's opposition is a bunch of,

People, in general, don't like to hear/see things that challenge their world view. A good example of this is the LGBT movement. It's opposition is a bunch of, to us, very weird arguments about family but the reality is that some traditional people don't like seeing unusual couples in public (this happened before with inter-racial relationships). On the other hand, the people on college campuses who are inside a decidedly liberal bubble, don't want to see Milo wander by and spew his nonsense, disregarding the fact that it does no harm to them for him to just babble at people.

throwanem 9y ago
That's not really a fair characterization, I think. For one thing, I've been lukewarm at best on the "LGBT movement", as you have it, for most of my life - and I really don't think that's because I "don't like seeing unusual couples in public", being as I'm gay myself and have been party to a few "unusual couples" in my own right. None of the conversations I've had, with others who weren't unalloyed supporters of the movement or indeed supporters at all, suggest that their own concerns were so shallowly founded, either. I don't doubt that there are people who just don't like to see two men, or two women, holding hands. But I find no reason, of my own experience, to suspect they are any less outliers in that regard than some might imagine I myself must be.
- Danihan 9y ago
  What are your reasons for being lukewarm about the movement? On second thought, you might want to keep those to yourself. I'm not sure how much "non-politically correct" talk is actually allowed here but I know it isn't much.
  - pdelbarba 9y ago
    Political correctness is largely about not being bigoted. It's not strictly un-politically-correct to disagree with something that's a hot topic if your concerns are reasonable and presented politely.
- pdelbarba 9y ago
  I know I'm generalizing to make a point about ones views and comfort, but I'm curious what you would say your concerns are? I should mention that by saying "LGBT movement" I'm referring to the overarching acceptance, not a specific or group of specific organizations. I know that these groups have their own issues, as is only human.
ggggtez 9y ago
I think you are kidding yourself if you think that giving a platform to an opposing point of view can do no harm. That belief isn't grounded in reality. Now, perhaps you'd like to give them a platform so you can openly disagree and create a dialog. That's a noble pursuit, but it is no guarantee that your side will not lose something in the exchange.

throwanem 9y ago

That's not really a fair characterization, I think. For one thing, I've been lukewarm at best on the "LGBT movement", as you have it, for most of my life - and I really don't think that's because I "don't like seeing unusual couples in public", being as I'm gay myself and have been party to a few "unusual couples" in my own right. None of the conversations I've had, with others who weren't unalloyed supporters of the movement or indeed supporters at all, suggest that their own concerns were so shallowly founded, either. I don't doubt that there are people who just don't like to see two men, or two women, holding hands. But I find no reason, of my own experience, to suspect they are any less outliers in that regard than some might imagine I myself must be.

Danihan 9y ago
What are your reasons for being lukewarm about the movement? On second thought, you might want to keep those to yourself. I'm not sure how much "non-politically correct" talk is actually allowed here but I know it isn't much.
- pdelbarba 9y ago
  Political correctness is largely about not being bigoted. It's not strictly un-politically-correct to disagree with something that's a hot topic if your concerns are reasonable and presented politely.
pdelbarba 9y ago
I know I'm generalizing to make a point about ones views and comfort, but I'm curious what you would say your concerns are? I should mention that by saying "LGBT movement" I'm referring to the overarching acceptance, not a specific or group of specific organizations. I know that these groups have their own issues, as is only human.

ggggtez 9y ago

I think you are kidding yourself if you think that giving a platform to an opposing point of view can do no harm. That belief isn't grounded in reality. Now, perhaps you'd like to give them a platform so you can openly disagree and create a dialog. That's a noble pursuit, but it is no guarantee that your side will not lose something in the exchange.