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That will be stock photography, rather than taken today.

by alex_hitchins 9y ago

FLUX-YOU 9y ago
It is still accurate. We still have XP machines floating around our campus. They are running EMR software.
- lol768 9y ago
  Are they paying Microsoft for extended support?
  - alex_hitchins 9y ago
    What does this cover provide? Any ideas? I assume every customer is different?
  - throwaway049 9y ago
    Yes. NHS has a national level support agreement for XP. There are a lot of legacy systems and it's not just the bother of replacing the system, there are a lot of front line staff who only know how to use specific applications and are not generally computer literate so moving them to new systems will slow everything down for weeks or months as they learn a new application.
- alex_hitchins 9y ago
  Christ. There is no excuse for that whatsoever. A live machine?
  - FLUX-YOU 9y ago
    >There is no excuse for that whatsoever. Except for budget and non-technical leadership in technical leadership roles
  - pjc50 9y ago
    If the software doesn't run on versions higher than XP, then there's no alternative. There's a lot of expensive equipment which is stuck on XP.
    - mercurial 9y ago
      Virtual machines are a thing.
      - pjc50 9y ago
        How does that help? We're talking about devices that need, for whatever driver-related reason, to run on the bare metal. A non-health example: http://www.effectivebits.net/2011/08/to-run-windows-or-not-to-run-windows.html http://www.effectivebits.net/2011/08/to-run-windows-or-not-t...
        peterwwillis 9y ago
        And medical devices cannot just be modified after they are approved for medical use. Any changes must be introduced by the original vendor (or an approved 3rd party vendor) and put through a barrage of tests and certifications needed to release such a device for use on a human. Those include EMC/EMI testing, QC testing, safety testing, RF testing, clinical trials, regulatory compliance, etc. When you buy a medical device running Windows 3.1, it will run that until it is thrown away or replaced.

That will be stock photography, rather than taken today.

FLUX-YOU 9y ago

It is still accurate. We still have XP machines floating around our campus. They are running EMR software.

lol768 9y ago
Are they paying Microsoft for extended support?
- alex_hitchins 9y ago
  What does this cover provide? Any ideas? I assume every customer is different?
- throwaway049 9y ago
  Yes. NHS has a national level support agreement for XP. There are a lot of legacy systems and it's not just the bother of replacing the system, there are a lot of front line staff who only know how to use specific applications and are not generally computer literate so moving them to new systems will slow everything down for weeks or months as they learn a new application.
alex_hitchins 9y ago
Christ. There is no excuse for that whatsoever. A live machine?
- FLUX-YOU 9y ago
  >There is no excuse for that whatsoever. Except for budget and non-technical leadership in technical leadership roles
- pjc50 9y ago
  If the software doesn't run on versions higher than XP, then there's no alternative. There's a lot of expensive equipment which is stuck on XP.
  - mercurial 9y ago
    Virtual machines are a thing.
    - pjc50 9y ago
      How does that help? We're talking about devices that need, for whatever driver-related reason, to run on the bare metal. A non-health example: http://www.effectivebits.net/2011/08/to-run-windows-or-not-to-run-windows.html http://www.effectivebits.net/2011/08/to-run-windows-or-not-t...
      - peterwwillis 9y ago
        And medical devices cannot just be modified after they are approved for medical use. Any changes must be introduced by the original vendor (or an approved 3rd party vendor) and put through a barrage of tests and certifications needed to release such a device for use on a human. Those include EMC/EMI testing, QC testing, safety testing, RF testing, clinical trials, regulatory compliance, etc. When you buy a medical device running Windows 3.1, it will run that until it is thrown away or replaced.