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Windows Internals, 7th Edition

174 points by ctoth 9y ago

gtirloni 9y ago
What's the modern equivalent for the Linux kernel these days?
- partycoder 9y ago
  The Linux Kernel Programming Interface maybe? https://www.nostarch.com/tlpi https://www.nostarch.com/tlpi
- 0xcde4c3db 9y ago
  Unless my search skills have gone to hell, the Linux equivalents seem to be significantly out of date. You might consider trying The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System by Kirk McKusick et. al..
- xpaulbettsx 9y ago
  https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Kernel-Development-Robert-Love/dp/0672329468/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494565611&sr=8-1&keywords=robert+love+linux https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Kernel-Development-Robert-Love/... is very good, as is https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/1118057651/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494565653&sr=8-1&keywords=Apple+kernel+book+Jonathan https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/111805...
  - JdeBP 9y ago
    Amit Singh's book on MacOS is quite interesting, too. But gtirloni did ask about Linux, for which neither MacOS book is really appropriate.
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pranith 9y ago
For those having trouble accessing the page: https://web.archive.org/web/20170512030315/http://www.alex-ionescu.com/?p=335 https://web.archive.org/web/20170512030315/http://www.alex-i...
- j_s 9y ago
  And here's Amazon's Kindle edition, listed for me at $31.19: https://amzn.com/dp/B0711FDMRR https://amzn.com/dp/B0711FDMRR
  - ctolkien 9y ago
    45% off currently. Was ~$19 AUD ($14 USD)
    - odilontalk 9y ago
      Can you share the link?
      - odilontalk 9y ago
        Code INTERNALS gives 40% off the pBook or eBook price on the MS Press Store. Just used the code for the bundle and it worked! https://www.microsoftpressstore.com https://www.microsoftpressstore.com
j_s 9y ago
If Alex happens to drop by: what happened to DriverMon? Clearly Alex has been very busy but he mentioned the GUI-fication of the tool was being handled by his co-worker Robin Keir. "Abusing the NT Kernel Shim Engine" by Alex Ionescu at REcon 2016 (October) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCa9icMqBNM?t=48m55s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCa9icMqBNM?t=48m55s a tool called DriverMon is planned for release at the conference, which uses the KSE to provide ProcMon for Drivers Will be available from https://www.crowdstrike.com/resources/community-tools/ https://www.crowdstrike.com/resources/community-tools/ Will announce release on Twitter in a few weeks -- Waiting for this has reinforced my belief that vaporware (or whatever is preventing the release of this tool) has served as the best deterrent preventing anyone else from running with this undocumented tech!
hackuser 9y ago
> Surface Aggregator Module (SAM) Internals - a little chip on your Surface Pro/Laptop/Book that you probably didn’t know was there Nobody on the Internet seems to know what it is (based on my 5 minutes of looking). Does anyone on HN know?
- swatkat 9y ago
  Based on this[1] tweet, "System Aggregator Module" firmware on Surface Pro is similar to Macbook's "System Management Controller"[2]. [1] https://twitter.com/aionescu/status/815878947200077824?lang=en https://twitter.com/aionescu/status/815878947200077824?lang=... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Controller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Controller
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    > System Aggregator Module > System Management Controller It's like the worst Java naming patterns (FactoryControlerBridgeAdapterManagerAdapter), but in hardware.
NicolasBeuzeboc 9y ago
Maybe it's just me but when I glance at the cover it looks like the book is about Windows 7 Internals only. I'm wondering how many others would think the same when seeing it on a bookshelf. It looks like the same layout was used for the 6th edition, I want to suggest the use of a different layout for the next editions.
- JdeBP 9y ago
  It does look as if the title is Windows 7 Internals. Note that it was the preceding edition that covered Windows 7 (Windows NT 6.1). This edition has been updated to cover Windows NT 10.
  - annnnd 9y ago
    Not the way I read it - it is "Windows Internals - 7 (seventh edition)". It is not even ambiguous IMHO because "7" is not vertically aligned with "Windows". But at a glance, yeah, someone could misunderstand it...
    - heinrich5991 9y ago
      You can't say it's not ambigous if you're replying to two persons that found it confusing. :) I also read Windows 7 Internals, for one.
    - mvdwoord 9y ago
      I guess if you only look at books at a glance, you are not the target market for this one anyway.. ;)
- gmiller123456 9y ago
  This problem gets a lot worse when all you see is a thumbnail of the cover. At least the image on his blog post is large enough that you can figure out what it means if you take a second. But in search results, the text "Seventh Edition" is nearly invisible.
xurukefi 9y ago
Is the book released? Where can i buy it? What about part 2? So many questions...
- nxc18 9y ago
  The Amazon page makes it look like its not ready yet, but I just got part 1 on kindle.
- humps 9y ago
  Book is released on May 15. http://a.co/hC9N59E http://a.co/hC9N59E
marsrover 9y ago
Wow, awesome. I've been checking Amazon every few months waiting on this. I was starting to think it'd never come. Also, just to echo xurukefi, what about part 2?

174 points by ctoth 9y ago

gtirloni 9y ago

What's the modern equivalent for the Linux kernel these days?

partycoder 9y ago
The Linux Kernel Programming Interface maybe? https://www.nostarch.com/tlpi https://www.nostarch.com/tlpi
0xcde4c3db 9y ago
Unless my search skills have gone to hell, the Linux equivalents seem to be significantly out of date. You might consider trying The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System by Kirk McKusick et. al..
xpaulbettsx 9y ago
https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Kernel-Development-Robert-Love/dp/0672329468/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494565611&sr=8-1&keywords=robert+love+linux https://www.amazon.com/Linux-Kernel-Development-Robert-Love/... is very good, as is https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/1118057651/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494565653&sr=8-1&keywords=Apple+kernel+book+Jonathan https://www.amazon.com/Mac-OS-iOS-Internals-Apples/dp/111805...
- JdeBP 9y ago
  Amit Singh's book on MacOS is quite interesting, too. But gtirloni did ask about Linux, for which neither MacOS book is really appropriate.

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pranith 9y ago

For those having trouble accessing the page: https://web.archive.org/web/20170512030315/http://www.alex-ionescu.com/?p=335 https://web.archive.org/web/20170512030315/http://www.alex-i...

j_s 9y ago
And here's Amazon's Kindle edition, listed for me at $31.19: https://amzn.com/dp/B0711FDMRR https://amzn.com/dp/B0711FDMRR
- ctolkien 9y ago
  45% off currently. Was ~$19 AUD ($14 USD)
  - odilontalk 9y ago
    Can you share the link?
    - odilontalk 9y ago
      Code INTERNALS gives 40% off the pBook or eBook price on the MS Press Store. Just used the code for the bundle and it worked! https://www.microsoftpressstore.com https://www.microsoftpressstore.com

j_s 9y ago

If Alex happens to drop by: what happened to DriverMon? Clearly Alex has been very busy but he mentioned the GUI-fication of the tool was being handled by his co-worker Robin Keir. "Abusing the NT Kernel Shim Engine" by Alex Ionescu at REcon 2016 (October) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCa9icMqBNM?t=48m55s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCa9icMqBNM?t=48m55s a tool called DriverMon is planned for release at the conference, which uses the KSE to provide ProcMon for Drivers Will be available from https://www.crowdstrike.com/resources/community-tools/ https://www.crowdstrike.com/resources/community-tools/ Will announce release on Twitter in a few weeks -- Waiting for this has reinforced my belief that vaporware (or whatever is preventing the release of this tool) has served as the best deterrent preventing anyone else from running with this undocumented tech!

hackuser 9y ago

> Surface Aggregator Module (SAM) Internals - a little chip on your Surface Pro/Laptop/Book that you probably didn’t know was there Nobody on the Internet seems to know what it is (based on my 5 minutes of looking). Does anyone on HN know?

swatkat 9y ago
Based on this[1] tweet, "System Aggregator Module" firmware on Surface Pro is similar to Macbook's "System Management Controller"[2]. [1] https://twitter.com/aionescu/status/815878947200077824?lang=en https://twitter.com/aionescu/status/815878947200077824?lang=... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Controller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Controller
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  > System Aggregator Module > System Management Controller It's like the worst Java naming patterns (FactoryControlerBridgeAdapterManagerAdapter), but in hardware.

NicolasBeuzeboc 9y ago

Maybe it's just me but when I glance at the cover it looks like the book is about Windows 7 Internals only. I'm wondering how many others would think the same when seeing it on a bookshelf. It looks like the same layout was used for the 6th edition, I want to suggest the use of a different layout for the next editions.

JdeBP 9y ago
It does look as if the title is Windows 7 Internals. Note that it was the preceding edition that covered Windows 7 (Windows NT 6.1). This edition has been updated to cover Windows NT 10.
- annnnd 9y ago
  Not the way I read it - it is "Windows Internals - 7 (seventh edition)". It is not even ambiguous IMHO because "7" is not vertically aligned with "Windows". But at a glance, yeah, someone could misunderstand it...
  - heinrich5991 9y ago
    You can't say it's not ambigous if you're replying to two persons that found it confusing. :) I also read Windows 7 Internals, for one.
  - mvdwoord 9y ago
    I guess if you only look at books at a glance, you are not the target market for this one anyway.. ;)
gmiller123456 9y ago
This problem gets a lot worse when all you see is a thumbnail of the cover. At least the image on his blog post is large enough that you can figure out what it means if you take a second. But in search results, the text "Seventh Edition" is nearly invisible.

xurukefi 9y ago

Is the book released? Where can i buy it? What about part 2? So many questions...

nxc18 9y ago
The Amazon page makes it look like its not ready yet, but I just got part 1 on kindle.
humps 9y ago
Book is released on May 15. http://a.co/hC9N59E http://a.co/hC9N59E

marsrover 9y ago

Wow, awesome. I've been checking Amazon every few months waiting on this. I was starting to think it'd never come. Also, just to echo xurukefi, what about part 2?