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How many platforms does that Microsoft emulator work on? One? Unlike Microsoft, Google supports 3 development platforms and so their new emulator also had to su

How many platforms does that Microsoft emulator work on? One? Unlike Microsoft, Google supports 3 development platforms and so their new emulator also had to support 3 platforms. Also, the new emulator was written from scratch and that takes time.

flukus 9y ago
> Unlike Microsoft, Google supports 3 development platforms and so their new emulator also had to support 3 platforms No it didn't. If platform specific solutions make sense then we should use platform specific solutions. Not everything has to be cross platform and 100% identical across all platforms.
- bitmapbrother 9y ago
  Except when you develop a cross platform IDE and emulator that requires feature parity across them all.
  - flukus 9y ago
    Feature parity does not mean the exact same tools on every platform. Trying to be identical across 3 platforms always means adopting the lowest common denominator and always results in being equally shit on every platform. It's astounding that people still try to ignore the last 30 years of evidence of this.
    - bitmapbrother 9y ago
      So Linux users should get the shaft because they're the minority? Android Studio and the emulator work very well on all 3 platforms. >Trying to be identical across 3 platforms always means adopting the lowest common denominator and always results in being equally shit on every platform. In that case we're fortunate that Xcode isn't cross platform.
      - flukus 9y ago
        > So Linux users should get the shaft because they're the minority? Linux users should get the best possible experience on the system, so should the windows users. If a better emulator is available on windows why should they get shafted? Linux tools even have the advantage that they may not need full emulation in the first place, but instead we end up with the worst of both worlds. > Android Studio and the emulator work very well on all 3 platforms. In my experience nothing about android development works very well on any platform. I'm not a huge fan of MS, but windows phone development and tools are an absolute dream in comparison.
        adrianN 9y ago
        So you could spend three times as much money and design completely different products for each platform, or you could have one codebase with a limited number of special cases for the different platforms and invest the saved money into making a better product...
        flukus 9y ago
        How did you calculate 3 times as much? No one said nothing can be shared across platforms. And again, we've got 3 decades of evidence that show precious few good cross platform solutions, so investing the saved money into making a better product doesn't seem to work.
        AlphaSite 9y ago
        Ive previously done iOS development (on the side) and tried Android development in the last few weeks and it feels like a massive, horrible hacked together pipeline. Why go through this horrible hack of a pipeline, recompiling and modifying .class files when you can instead create a compiler which does it directly?
        bitmapbrother 9y ago
        >Linux users should get the best possible experience on the system, so should the windows users. If a better emulator is available on windows why should they get shafted? Linux tools even have the advantage that they may not need full emulation in the first place, but instead we end up with the worst of both worlds. You seem to be under the impression that if you develop a cross platform solution that it's going to be inherently inferior. I disagree with that and the new Android emulator is proof of that. It's superior to the MS Android emulator in every way and it's also available on all 3 platforms. >In my experience nothing about android development works very well on any platform. In that case you probably don't have much experience developing for Android. >I'm not a huge fan of MS, but windows phone development and tools are an absolute dream in comparison. If developing for windows platform is a dream then why is their app store a cesspool filled with horrible looking apps?
pjmlp 9y ago
That is no excuse for letting the emulator stagnate for several years, without any kind of visible change in regards to performance. They hire PhDs capable of sorting out the incredible whiteboard and phone CS exercises for something. Also apparently all those Phd weren't able to do what GenyMotion guys and girls were happily developing.
- bitmapbrother 9y ago
  How many platforms is GenyMotion available on?

flukus 9y ago

> Unlike Microsoft, Google supports 3 development platforms and so their new emulator also had to support 3 platforms No it didn't. If platform specific solutions make sense then we should use platform specific solutions. Not everything has to be cross platform and 100% identical across all platforms.

bitmapbrother 9y ago
Except when you develop a cross platform IDE and emulator that requires feature parity across them all.
- flukus 9y ago
  Feature parity does not mean the exact same tools on every platform. Trying to be identical across 3 platforms always means adopting the lowest common denominator and always results in being equally shit on every platform. It's astounding that people still try to ignore the last 30 years of evidence of this.
  - bitmapbrother 9y ago
    So Linux users should get the shaft because they're the minority? Android Studio and the emulator work very well on all 3 platforms. >Trying to be identical across 3 platforms always means adopting the lowest common denominator and always results in being equally shit on every platform. In that case we're fortunate that Xcode isn't cross platform.
    - flukus 9y ago
      > So Linux users should get the shaft because they're the minority? Linux users should get the best possible experience on the system, so should the windows users. If a better emulator is available on windows why should they get shafted? Linux tools even have the advantage that they may not need full emulation in the first place, but instead we end up with the worst of both worlds. > Android Studio and the emulator work very well on all 3 platforms. In my experience nothing about android development works very well on any platform. I'm not a huge fan of MS, but windows phone development and tools are an absolute dream in comparison.
      - adrianN 9y ago
        So you could spend three times as much money and design completely different products for each platform, or you could have one codebase with a limited number of special cases for the different platforms and invest the saved money into making a better product...
        flukus 9y ago
        How did you calculate 3 times as much? No one said nothing can be shared across platforms. And again, we've got 3 decades of evidence that show precious few good cross platform solutions, so investing the saved money into making a better product doesn't seem to work.
      - AlphaSite 9y ago
        Ive previously done iOS development (on the side) and tried Android development in the last few weeks and it feels like a massive, horrible hacked together pipeline. Why go through this horrible hack of a pipeline, recompiling and modifying .class files when you can instead create a compiler which does it directly?
      - bitmapbrother 9y ago
        >Linux users should get the best possible experience on the system, so should the windows users. If a better emulator is available on windows why should they get shafted? Linux tools even have the advantage that they may not need full emulation in the first place, but instead we end up with the worst of both worlds. You seem to be under the impression that if you develop a cross platform solution that it's going to be inherently inferior. I disagree with that and the new Android emulator is proof of that. It's superior to the MS Android emulator in every way and it's also available on all 3 platforms. >In my experience nothing about android development works very well on any platform. In that case you probably don't have much experience developing for Android. >I'm not a huge fan of MS, but windows phone development and tools are an absolute dream in comparison. If developing for windows platform is a dream then why is their app store a cesspool filled with horrible looking apps?

pjmlp 9y ago

That is no excuse for letting the emulator stagnate for several years, without any kind of visible change in regards to performance. They hire PhDs capable of sorting out the incredible whiteboard and phone CS exercises for something. Also apparently all those Phd weren't able to do what GenyMotion guys and girls were happily developing.

bitmapbrother 9y ago
How many platforms is GenyMotion available on?