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First sentence: > The fact that the fingerprint sensors on smartphones are not quite as secure as the manufacturers want us to believe, has already emerged wit

First sentence: > The fact that the fingerprint sensors on smartphones are not quite as secure as the manufacturers want us to believe, has already emerged with the first iPhone with this feature. Ok, a bit awkward > The technique has improved since then, the methods to crack it but also turn. Uh, what? > And not with the means of the analog, but the digital world - via machine learning and an artificial intelligence. I agree that if you're scanning, you might not realize that you're reading a translation, but it's very obvious to me if I slow down and actually read it.

Mz 9y ago
In context, I think it (that specific bit) is fairly easy to follow: The technique has improved since then, the methods to crack it but also turn. The eternal cat and mouse game between team blue and team red. So, apparently the first sentence means that the technique has improved since then, but so have the methods trying to crack it. Though, to be fair, I have no clue what rumgeilt means and that was apparently just not translated at all.
- 1maginary 9y ago
  >Die Technik hat sich seitdem zwar verbessert, die Methoden sie zu knacken aber wiederum auch. Is what it was trying to translate, not sure where you/it got 'rumgeilt' from. A more natural sounding translation would be: The technology has improved since then, but, on the other hand, so have the methods to crack it You could also translate 'wiederum' as 'in turn' which might exlain the 'turn' in Google's translation.
  - Mz 9y ago
    Rumgeilt was later in the English translation of the article. I know a little German, a little French and took Classical Greek in college, as well as Intro to Linguistics (where, iirc, we covered a bit of Swahili grammar for some damn reason). I am pretty comfortable with both weird idioms not translating directly and with finding close, if uncommon, matches between some other language and words or phrases in English. So, the "in turn" part doesn't disturb me. I mean, you could translate it as something like "They are taking it in turns" or "but the methods to crack it also got their turn to improve."

Mz 9y ago

In context, I think it (that specific bit) is fairly easy to follow: The technique has improved since then, the methods to crack it but also turn. The eternal cat and mouse game between team blue and team red. So, apparently the first sentence means that the technique has improved since then, but so have the methods trying to crack it. Though, to be fair, I have no clue what rumgeilt means and that was apparently just not translated at all.

1maginary 9y ago
>Die Technik hat sich seitdem zwar verbessert, die Methoden sie zu knacken aber wiederum auch. Is what it was trying to translate, not sure where you/it got 'rumgeilt' from. A more natural sounding translation would be: The technology has improved since then, but, on the other hand, so have the methods to crack it You could also translate 'wiederum' as 'in turn' which might exlain the 'turn' in Google's translation.
- Mz 9y ago
  Rumgeilt was later in the English translation of the article. I know a little German, a little French and took Classical Greek in college, as well as Intro to Linguistics (where, iirc, we covered a bit of Swahili grammar for some damn reason). I am pretty comfortable with both weird idioms not translating directly and with finding close, if uncommon, matches between some other language and words or phrases in English. So, the "in turn" part doesn't disturb me. I mean, you could translate it as something like "They are taking it in turns" or "but the methods to crack it also got their turn to improve."