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I didn't realize staying on the bleeding edge kernels was such a performance boost, that it's worth shying away from an entire ecosystem. It sounds a bit elitis

I didn't realize staying on the bleeding edge kernels was such a performance boost, that it's worth shying away from an entire ecosystem. It sounds a bit elitist. Alternatively, when I use Windows now I'll get both PowerShell and a full Unix environment. For my development work so far, none of those arbitrary drawbacks have stopped WSFL from being a champ. On the plus side, I don't constantly have to edit configuration files after every update because my wireless card/window manager/etc broke.

gigatexal 9y ago
The win 10 experience for me has been such a disappointment between the privacy concerns and the overall UI I'd much rather not bother. To each their own, though.
- electricEmu 9y ago
  For many of us, privacy doesn't exist on work machines anyways.
  - gigatexal 9y ago
    Oh I know. I tell myself everyday that I walk into work or log into my workstation remotely that I give up all semblance of privacy. It's in my firm's employee agreement that basically everything is tracked. I was talking about my home workstation.
mysterydip 9y ago
For me, it's the opposite: I don't want to be on the bleeding edge of forced windows updates, so I'll run a linux system and VM an older-but-still-compatible windows system where I can keep the environment stable without worrying about security updates (due to it being in a sandbox). I realize this doesn't fit everyone's use case, but wanted to offer an additional perspective.
- revmoo 9y ago
  > For me, it's the opposite: I don't want to be on the bleeding edge of forced windows updates This is me 100%. Windows is way too flaky for daily work use imho. I don't want to walk into my office at 2am to get something done and see an update running.
cryptarch 9y ago
The wifi story has been stable for years now, at least on Debian 8. When you have Intel wifi you'll have to enable the non-free repo, and that's about the extent of it.
- electricEmu 9y ago
  It's way better than hand-coding NDISWrapper but that isn't trivial unless you're already familiar with Linux. I had a friend ask me about installing a distro the other day. I told him to buy a Linode/DO box or use WSFL instead of finagling with hardware. My Dell XPS 13 is sold _as_ a Linux machine, and there aren't drivers for everything.
cthalupa 9y ago
Well, there's a variety of reasons that being on new kernels (or a linux kernel at all) Things like bpf if you're doing performance profiling Ready access to PMCs (The Intel PMC stuff is a pain in the ass to get working in Windows, because you have to build a signed driver for MSR access) without paying the $900 for vTune Access to perf There's really no way to do performance engineering on Bash/WSL

gigatexal 9y ago

The win 10 experience for me has been such a disappointment between the privacy concerns and the overall UI I'd much rather not bother. To each their own, though.

electricEmu 9y ago
For many of us, privacy doesn't exist on work machines anyways.
- gigatexal 9y ago
  Oh I know. I tell myself everyday that I walk into work or log into my workstation remotely that I give up all semblance of privacy. It's in my firm's employee agreement that basically everything is tracked. I was talking about my home workstation.

mysterydip 9y ago

For me, it's the opposite: I don't want to be on the bleeding edge of forced windows updates, so I'll run a linux system and VM an older-but-still-compatible windows system where I can keep the environment stable without worrying about security updates (due to it being in a sandbox). I realize this doesn't fit everyone's use case, but wanted to offer an additional perspective.

revmoo 9y ago
> For me, it's the opposite: I don't want to be on the bleeding edge of forced windows updates This is me 100%. Windows is way too flaky for daily work use imho. I don't want to walk into my office at 2am to get something done and see an update running.

cryptarch 9y ago

The wifi story has been stable for years now, at least on Debian 8. When you have Intel wifi you'll have to enable the non-free repo, and that's about the extent of it.

electricEmu 9y ago
It's way better than hand-coding NDISWrapper but that isn't trivial unless you're already familiar with Linux. I had a friend ask me about installing a distro the other day. I told him to buy a Linode/DO box or use WSFL instead of finagling with hardware. My Dell XPS 13 is sold _as_ a Linux machine, and there aren't drivers for everything.

cthalupa 9y ago

Well, there's a variety of reasons that being on new kernels (or a linux kernel at all) Things like bpf if you're doing performance profiling Ready access to PMCs (The Intel PMC stuff is a pain in the ass to get working in Windows, because you have to build a signed driver for MSR access) without paying the $900 for vTune Access to perf There's really no way to do performance engineering on Bash/WSL