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> rich leeches to force poor people into "voluntary" deaths What is wrong in rich people parting their wealth to help poor people while benefiting their family

by tn135 9y ago

> rich leeches to force poor people into "voluntary" deaths What is wrong in rich people parting their wealth to help poor people while benefiting their family members ? The voluntary part however is very important and in a country like USA that part can generally be achieved much better than say India or China. Give instant green-cards to the family members of organ donors from India and China instantly and USA will not have a problem of organ donation queue while helping millions of Chinese and Indian people live a better life.

anigbrowl 9y ago
I'm sure Indian and Chinese people must be delighted by the prospect of being 'voluntary' livestock to produce meat to replace the failing body parts of wealthy Americans, and that no financial or emotional pressure will be brought to bear on anyone to participate.
- tn135 9y ago
  While it might sound bad to you for millions of Indians and Chinese it is totally worth a Kidney. As long as they are making that choice themselves I do not see the problem.
coldtea 9y ago
>What is wrong in rich people parting their wealth to help poor people while benefiting their family members ? What's wrong is that life and health should be a right to everybody, not just to those who can buy it out.
- tn135 9y ago
  > What's wrong is that life and health should be a right to everybody, not just to those who can buy it out. I am unable to see how life and health can be right without justifying force and violence. If someone needs a Kidney and if it is a right then it must be forcibly taken from someone else without that you can not call it a right.
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  - coldtea 9y ago
    >I am unable to see how life and health can be right without justifying force and violence. If someone needs a Kidney and if it is a right then it must be forcibly taken from someone else without that you can not call it a right. Or you know, it can be either taken from a donations pool where everybody has access to, or the person may just not have it. Prioritizing the rich to live is not really ethical in my book.
    - tn135 9y ago
      > from a donations pool where everybody has access to If the donation pool is limited and a sick person is not allowed to use his wealth to save himself, it is violence on the sick person.

by tn135 9y ago

anigbrowl 9y ago

I'm sure Indian and Chinese people must be delighted by the prospect of being 'voluntary' livestock to produce meat to replace the failing body parts of wealthy Americans, and that no financial or emotional pressure will be brought to bear on anyone to participate.

tn135 9y ago
While it might sound bad to you for millions of Indians and Chinese it is totally worth a Kidney. As long as they are making that choice themselves I do not see the problem.

coldtea 9y ago

>What is wrong in rich people parting their wealth to help poor people while benefiting their family members ? What's wrong is that life and health should be a right to everybody, not just to those who can buy it out.

tn135 9y ago
> What's wrong is that life and health should be a right to everybody, not just to those who can buy it out. I am unable to see how life and health can be right without justifying force and violence. If someone needs a Kidney and if it is a right then it must be forcibly taken from someone else without that you can not call it a right.
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- coldtea 9y ago
  >I am unable to see how life and health can be right without justifying force and violence. If someone needs a Kidney and if it is a right then it must be forcibly taken from someone else without that you can not call it a right. Or you know, it can be either taken from a donations pool where everybody has access to, or the person may just not have it. Prioritizing the rich to live is not really ethical in my book.
  - tn135 9y ago
    > from a donations pool where everybody has access to If the donation pool is limited and a sick person is not allowed to use his wealth to save himself, it is violence on the sick person.