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Perfect region for the NSA to make use of GCP!

by HappyTypist 9y ago

bitmapbrother 9y ago
Everyone knows the NSA is an AWS shop.
- kornish 9y ago
  This comment is getting downvoted, but there might be some tongue-in-cheek truth: the CIA, after all, did a $600 million deal with AWS to build an on-premise cloud. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-d...
  - tssva 9y ago
    There is indeed truth to it. The cloud in the deal you mentioned is open to all IC agencies and not just the CIA.
  - 616c 9y ago
    USG and military have access to different select portfolios of Amazon and Microsoft Azure service depending on the data said system stores (classified, not, PII, PHI and for whom) and how it must be secured by USG or DoD regulations. Amazon was the first and only answer. Ironically Azure Gov and DoD are catching up.
  - bitmapbrother 9y ago
    >What you need to know about the AWS Canada (Central) Region. >Is my data secure? >AWS is a battleship carrier armed with a thousand of the world's best security engineers, on a robust proven security driven platform, used by the NSA and the CIA. Their business depends on protecting your data. http://www.trinimbus.com/faq-amazon-web-services-canada-region/ http://www.trinimbus.com/faq-amazon-web-services-canada-regi...
- coding123 9y ago
  I thought it was funny
sillysaurus3 9y ago
Did anything ever come of that movement to write an open source software license like "Anyone can use this, except the NSA"? It was a briefly-popular idea in 2013 or so.
- meddlepal 9y ago
  Good luck enforcing that or finding out if the NSA is using your software. It's just a silly idea.
  - sillysaurus3 9y ago
    Probably, though it came about after finding out the NSA uses Sinatra, so it's not entirely impossible.
- chungy 9y ago
  It is a contradiction of terms. An open source license cannot exclude any groups, else it is not open source.
- jlebar 9y ago
  OCB has an explicit "no military use" license. It caused huge headaches for e.g. openssl; they had to get a special exemption. http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm See also the JSON license.

Perfect region for the NSA to make use of GCP!

bitmapbrother 9y ago

Everyone knows the NSA is an AWS shop.

kornish 9y ago
This comment is getting downvoted, but there might be some tongue-in-cheek truth: the CIA, after all, did a $600 million deal with AWS to build an on-premise cloud. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-details-about-the-cias-deal-with-amazon/374632/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/07/the-d...
- tssva 9y ago
  There is indeed truth to it. The cloud in the deal you mentioned is open to all IC agencies and not just the CIA.
- 616c 9y ago
  USG and military have access to different select portfolios of Amazon and Microsoft Azure service depending on the data said system stores (classified, not, PII, PHI and for whom) and how it must be secured by USG or DoD regulations. Amazon was the first and only answer. Ironically Azure Gov and DoD are catching up.
- bitmapbrother 9y ago
  >What you need to know about the AWS Canada (Central) Region. >Is my data secure? >AWS is a battleship carrier armed with a thousand of the world's best security engineers, on a robust proven security driven platform, used by the NSA and the CIA. Their business depends on protecting your data. http://www.trinimbus.com/faq-amazon-web-services-canada-region/ http://www.trinimbus.com/faq-amazon-web-services-canada-regi...
coding123 9y ago
I thought it was funny

sillysaurus3 9y ago

Did anything ever come of that movement to write an open source software license like "Anyone can use this, except the NSA"? It was a briefly-popular idea in 2013 or so.

meddlepal 9y ago
Good luck enforcing that or finding out if the NSA is using your software. It's just a silly idea.
- sillysaurus3 9y ago
  Probably, though it came about after finding out the NSA uses Sinatra, so it's not entirely impossible.
chungy 9y ago
It is a contradiction of terms. An open source license cannot exclude any groups, else it is not open source.
jlebar 9y ago
OCB has an explicit "no military use" license. It caused huge headaches for e.g. openssl; they had to get a special exemption. http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm http://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm See also the JSON license.