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Google has enough failed projects in their portfolio to prove this argument wrong. If they could make a product successful just by abusing their network effect

Google has enough failed projects in their portfolio to prove this argument wrong. If they could make a product successful just by abusing their network effect, they'd be able to get Google+ or Hangouts off the ground. Also, Google Spaces, Android TV, Android Auto, Duo, Allo... Google Photos has crushed all the other startups in the space because it's so good, not because it's been forced on everybody by a monopoly. Their other apps that aren't good enough to take over a market don't take over a market.

kuschku 10y ago
Hangouts, Duo, Allo, Auto are all things I already had accounted for. Because they have the issue of existing competitors with network effect. > Google Photos has crushed all the other startups in the space because it's so good And why is it so good? Because Google uses an advantage they gained from (partially illegally) datamining user data. Google Duo is better than Skype, Google Allo is better than Telegram. They don’t take over the market only because Skype and co have existing userbases – network effect.
- notatoad 10y ago
  >Google Duo is better than Skype, Google Allo is better than Telegram. Sure, if you want to pick the weakest competitor, they're better. Duo competes with facetime, not skype. Allo competes with WhatsApp, not Telegram. Yes, part of what makes Google Photos good is the integration with their other products. "network effect" is a thing. But leveraging your other products is not the same thing as being an illegal monopoly. iCloud Photos has a network effect. Facebook's photo sharing product has a much larger network effect than Google's.
  - kuschku 10y ago
    > Duo competes with facetime, not skype. Allo competes with WhatsApp, not Telegram. Yet Allo has less users than IRC, or Signal, or Telegram. And Duo has less than Skype. The network effect is very powerful, and the network effect of social contacts is stronger than the network effect of software integration.

kuschku 10y ago

Hangouts, Duo, Allo, Auto are all things I already had accounted for. Because they have the issue of existing competitors with network effect. > Google Photos has crushed all the other startups in the space because it's so good And why is it so good? Because Google uses an advantage they gained from (partially illegally) datamining user data. Google Duo is better than Skype, Google Allo is better than Telegram. They don’t take over the market only because Skype and co have existing userbases – network effect.

notatoad 10y ago
>Google Duo is better than Skype, Google Allo is better than Telegram. Sure, if you want to pick the weakest competitor, they're better. Duo competes with facetime, not skype. Allo competes with WhatsApp, not Telegram. Yes, part of what makes Google Photos good is the integration with their other products. "network effect" is a thing. But leveraging your other products is not the same thing as being an illegal monopoly. iCloud Photos has a network effect. Facebook's photo sharing product has a much larger network effect than Google's.
- kuschku 10y ago
  > Duo competes with facetime, not skype. Allo competes with WhatsApp, not Telegram. Yet Allo has less users than IRC, or Signal, or Telegram. And Duo has less than Skype. The network effect is very powerful, and the network effect of social contacts is stronger than the network effect of software integration.