Well, I think both are idiots. I didn't know the probation office was involved. But judge has the final say in the sentencing. There are many ridiculous ruling

Well, I think both are idiots. I didn't know the probation office was involved. But judge has the final say in the sentencing. There are many ridiculous rulings, some are harmless and for giggles, but some are seriously fucked-up like Turner's case or those you linked.