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You must not be paying attention to all the failures that google releases. Google dominates email, but waves and even inbox I would say aren't catching on. Th

You must not be paying attention to all the failures that google releases. Google dominates email, but waves and even inbox I would say aren't catching on. They are failing in mobile messaging. Even though they own a huge part of your social graph through phone and email, they still can't get social right. Google owns ITA but Google flights is not the first place you look for plane tickets. Google also owns Zagat, but foursquare and yelp still dominate. I think the argument only looks at the wins and completely ignores everything else.

kuschku 9y ago
> They are failing in mobile messaging Because there is a pre-existing market with network effects. The one thing that Google just doesn’t 'get' are network effects. Regarding Yelp!: Google has spent a lot of effort (leading even to confrontation in court) trying to kill Yelp!’s business already.
- angryasian 9y ago
  > pre-existing market with network effects. (a phenomenon whereby a product or service gains additional value as more people use it.) Google has network effects as well as they own Android dialer, hangouts, google messenger, and email. I don't buy this argument. They just failed. Also you'd be the first person I'd see that defends Yelp's business model, but yeah I'm not familiar with the Google vs Yelp court case.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    > Also you'd be the first person I'd see that defends Yelp's business model, but yeah I'm not familiar with the Google vs Yelp court case. Google copied Yelp!’s ratings, showed them without any backlink in Maps and Places. Once Yelp! complained, Google told them to either suck it up, or to use robots.txt to opt-out of Google search entirely. "If you want to be in the index, you have to allow us to scrape your data and present it however we want". This is a big part of the current EU Antitrust case, btw.
    - angryasian 9y ago
      thanks for the information. Yeah without attribution, it does seem like they are wrong on this.

kuschku 9y ago

> They are failing in mobile messaging Because there is a pre-existing market with network effects. The one thing that Google just doesn’t 'get' are network effects. Regarding Yelp!: Google has spent a lot of effort (leading even to confrontation in court) trying to kill Yelp!’s business already.

angryasian 9y ago
> pre-existing market with network effects. (a phenomenon whereby a product or service gains additional value as more people use it.) Google has network effects as well as they own Android dialer, hangouts, google messenger, and email. I don't buy this argument. They just failed. Also you'd be the first person I'd see that defends Yelp's business model, but yeah I'm not familiar with the Google vs Yelp court case.
- kuschku 9y ago
  > Also you'd be the first person I'd see that defends Yelp's business model, but yeah I'm not familiar with the Google vs Yelp court case. Google copied Yelp!’s ratings, showed them without any backlink in Maps and Places. Once Yelp! complained, Google told them to either suck it up, or to use robots.txt to opt-out of Google search entirely. "If you want to be in the index, you have to allow us to scrape your data and present it however we want". This is a big part of the current EU Antitrust case, btw.
  - angryasian 9y ago
    thanks for the information. Yeah without attribution, it does seem like they are wrong on this.