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The only problem I have with MS's ecosystem is their love to have a lot of concepts and name for everything. I am literally lost and I do not know what .NET/<wh

The only problem I have with MS's ecosystem is their love to have a lot of concepts and name for everything. I am literally lost and I do not know what .NET/<whatever> is what and how it is used. So is this just Xamarin repackaged ?

educar 9y ago
This is no different from the apple ecosystem. Their programming is filled with so many jargons (talking of desktop UI development here)
- holydude 9y ago
  No idea you might be right but I have no problem navigating in Ruby/Go/JavaScript ecosystems. While with MS I have the feeling they produce new tech and new names every week.
  - pvg 9y ago
    Seems mostly a matter of getting used to it. What's a 'gem'? And a 'bundler'? A rake, a rack, a rail, a tilt, a merb? Make sure to browserify your webpack, take a moment, don't react, have a mocha before, gulp, bowser comes to get you. Wait no, it's fine, it's just bower.
    - pitaj 9y ago
      Those are specific module names, in the case of JS at least. Not really comparable with framework-specific jargon. A better comparison would be redux concepts like "action", "store", and "reducer".
      - pvg 9y ago
        No and no.
- smacktoward 9y ago
  It is different, though. In Apple-world, when you say "XCode," you mean a very specific thing. They don't have "XCode" the IDE for Macs and then also a bunch of completely different products running on different OSes that work completely differently, which all also happen to be named "XCode." Microsoft's inability to understand how branding works is longstanding and legendary.
- abritinthebay 9y ago
  They're all named pretty differently though. I mean it's not like they're all called "XCode [something]".
RajenK 9y ago
Hi there! Rajen Kishna, Product Manager on Visual Studio for Mac here. Visual Studio for Mac is a full-featured IDE to create apps, games, and services for mobile, web, and cloud. Creating mobile apps with Xamarin and C# is definitely one of the workloads available, but there's a lot more with .NET Core, Unity, and Azure. You can view .NET Core as the cross-platform implementation of .NET you can code against and share code across apps and web on Windows, Linux, and macOS. Hope that helps clear things up!
beagle3 9y ago
Slightly off topic, but reminded me ... My pet MS naming peeve is that they decided that "locale" is not good enough for them and decided to name it "Culture" in .NET, even though it is the exact same thing and "locale", being a rarely used word outside of technical circles, is much more precise.

educar 9y ago

This is no different from the apple ecosystem. Their programming is filled with so many jargons (talking of desktop UI development here)

holydude 9y ago
No idea you might be right but I have no problem navigating in Ruby/Go/JavaScript ecosystems. While with MS I have the feeling they produce new tech and new names every week.
- pvg 9y ago
  Seems mostly a matter of getting used to it. What's a 'gem'? And a 'bundler'? A rake, a rack, a rail, a tilt, a merb? Make sure to browserify your webpack, take a moment, don't react, have a mocha before, gulp, bowser comes to get you. Wait no, it's fine, it's just bower.
  - pitaj 9y ago
    Those are specific module names, in the case of JS at least. Not really comparable with framework-specific jargon. A better comparison would be redux concepts like "action", "store", and "reducer".
    - pvg 9y ago
      No and no.
smacktoward 9y ago
It is different, though. In Apple-world, when you say "XCode," you mean a very specific thing. They don't have "XCode" the IDE for Macs and then also a bunch of completely different products running on different OSes that work completely differently, which all also happen to be named "XCode." Microsoft's inability to understand how branding works is longstanding and legendary.
abritinthebay 9y ago
They're all named pretty differently though. I mean it's not like they're all called "XCode [something]".

RajenK 9y ago

Hi there! Rajen Kishna, Product Manager on Visual Studio for Mac here. Visual Studio for Mac is a full-featured IDE to create apps, games, and services for mobile, web, and cloud. Creating mobile apps with Xamarin and C# is definitely one of the workloads available, but there's a lot more with .NET Core, Unity, and Azure. You can view .NET Core as the cross-platform implementation of .NET you can code against and share code across apps and web on Windows, Linux, and macOS. Hope that helps clear things up!

beagle3 9y ago

Slightly off topic, but reminded me ... My pet MS naming peeve is that they decided that "locale" is not good enough for them and decided to name it "Culture" in .NET, even though it is the exact same thing and "locale", being a rarely used word outside of technical circles, is much more precise.