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Microsoft Build is becoming an event where hell freezes over lately. VS on Mac, Linux on Windows, open source asp.net and .net, SQL Server on Linux

by yread 10y ago

blowski 10y ago
If Satan was forced to compete, he'd probably offer a wider range of options as well.
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s73ver 10y ago
It's not really VS on Mac, though. It's just a rebadged Xamarin Studio. I can't really call that amazing.
- RajenK 10y ago
  Hi there, Rajen Kishna here, Product Manager on Visual Studio for Mac. If you haven't tried it out yet, I would definitely say check out the released version of Visual Studio for Mac. It has support for mobile apps with Xamarin, but adds so much more to build web apps and services with .NET Core and even games with Unity. We also announced preview support coming very soon for Docker and Azure Functions and are definitely planning on adding more over time.
  - dang 10y ago
    > Hi, Rajen Kishna here, Product Manager on Visual Studio for Mac Hi, a minor procedural point (I'm a mod here): it's good to say this once in a thread, but repeating it after that breaks the feeling of normal conversation, so could you please not? Experience shows that users figure it out.
    - akoumis 10y ago
      I haven't seen his other comments yet so the heads up helped me understand the context of his comments better.
      - dang 10y ago
        Yes, there's a tradeoff with redundancy but overall it lowers the signal/noise ratio.
developer2 10y ago
Microsoft is trying to mitigate the hemorrhage that is the mass exodus of its customers from Windows to competing operating systems. It's not about "real support" for Linux or Mac. It's a sad attempt to keep people tied to Microsoft products, by enticing you to use these tools even once you've abandoned Windows. What they should be doing is fixing the critical issues people have with Windows; namely, Windows 10's (lack of) privacy settings, advertisements in Explorer, harassing people with taskbar notifications for using Chrome instead of Edge, and the utter shitstorm they allowed to take place with malware-levels of bullshit with forced and unattended upgrades to Windows 10. With the way in which Microsoft pushed out Windows 10, I can't understand why anyone is still using Windows except for gaming. That maneuver should have cost them so much more than it did. Microsoft has lost all credibility, and trust is unlikely to ever be regained. tldr; Microsoft Windows' users have had enough of this crap, and are migrating elsewhere. Instead of fixing the issues people have with Windows that are causing them to abandon it, Microsoft is creeping into the competition's ecosystems in some desperate attempt to maintain a partial grasp on its users.

Microsoft Build is becoming an event where hell freezes over lately. VS on Mac, Linux on Windows, open source asp.net and .net, SQL Server on Linux

by yread 10y ago

Microsoft Build is becoming an event where hell freezes over lately. VS on Mac, Linux on Windows, open source asp.net and .net, SQL Server on Linux

blowski 10y ago

If Satan was forced to compete, he'd probably offer a wider range of options as well.

deleted 10y ago

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s73ver 10y ago

It's not really VS on Mac, though. It's just a rebadged Xamarin Studio. I can't really call that amazing.

RajenK 10y ago
Hi there, Rajen Kishna here, Product Manager on Visual Studio for Mac. If you haven't tried it out yet, I would definitely say check out the released version of Visual Studio for Mac. It has support for mobile apps with Xamarin, but adds so much more to build web apps and services with .NET Core and even games with Unity. We also announced preview support coming very soon for Docker and Azure Functions and are definitely planning on adding more over time.
- dang 10y ago
  > Hi, Rajen Kishna here, Product Manager on Visual Studio for Mac Hi, a minor procedural point (I'm a mod here): it's good to say this once in a thread, but repeating it after that breaks the feeling of normal conversation, so could you please not? Experience shows that users figure it out.
  - akoumis 10y ago
    I haven't seen his other comments yet so the heads up helped me understand the context of his comments better.
    - dang 10y ago
      Yes, there's a tradeoff with redundancy but overall it lowers the signal/noise ratio.

developer2 10y ago

Microsoft is trying to mitigate the hemorrhage that is the mass exodus of its customers from Windows to competing operating systems. It's not about "real support" for Linux or Mac. It's a sad attempt to keep people tied to Microsoft products, by enticing you to use these tools even once you've abandoned Windows. What they should be doing is fixing the critical issues people have with Windows; namely, Windows 10's (lack of) privacy settings, advertisements in Explorer, harassing people with taskbar notifications for using Chrome instead of Edge, and the utter shitstorm they allowed to take place with malware-levels of bullshit with forced and unattended upgrades to Windows 10. With the way in which Microsoft pushed out Windows 10, I can't understand why anyone is still using Windows except for gaming. That maneuver should have cost them so much more than it did. Microsoft has lost all credibility, and trust is unlikely to ever be regained. tldr; Microsoft Windows' users have had enough of this crap, and are migrating elsewhere. Instead of fixing the issues people have with Windows that are causing them to abandon it, Microsoft is creeping into the competition's ecosystems in some desperate attempt to maintain a partial grasp on its users.