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Anyone know what has happened to the OSX builds? The de-facto project 'git-osx-installer' doesn't have binaries after 2.10 https://sourceforge.net/projects/git

• sillysaurus3 9y ago
  Probably homebrew. `brew install git --HEAD` gives v2.12.0, and I'm apparently using v2.11.0. It installs bash and zsh completions too, which are nice.
  • stephenr 9y ago
    Not everyone wants to use that travesty of a "package manager". The person you replied to was asking specifically about the native macos packages linked from the git official website.
    • cjlm 9y ago
      Why is it a travesty?
      • stephenr 9y ago
        It has fundamental flaws in how it handles dependencies, particularly when dealing with binary packages. installing user-owned global software is a terrible idea. The maintainers of homebrew are aware of both issues and simply don't care: they are not going to fix either, because they won't even acknowledge that they're actual problems.
        • lgas 9y ago
          Possibly because many people use their software and are very happy with it without running into those issues and addressing them would be a tremendous amount of work.
          • stephenr 9y ago
            They have put in work to actively prevent use as root, even with binary packages. This isn't just "its going to take too long", this is "fuck you, we know better than every OS vendor on the planet"
            • orf 9y ago
              Packages are often downloaded from third party sites, blindly running those with Sufi sounds like a terrible idea. Most developer Mac's are single user anyway. It's not like apt, yum or WU where the updates come from a trusted source.
              • stephenr 9y ago
                The "trusted" source in this case is Homebrew. The rest of your argument makes no sense, because homebrew is designed to be a trusted source - the recipes aren't just downloaded from any random URL. Being single user doesn't make installing software user owned any less of a bad idea.
                • orf 9y ago
                  ... the recepies then download code from random sources. Obviously vetted sources, but it's not a central repository with all of the packages that is controlled by Homebrew like the other package managers you list. It's just a big git repository of recepies, which are exactly that. Instructions on how to combine things (source code, binaries, flags etc) from external sources.
                  • stephenr 9y ago
    • sillysaurus3 9y ago
      I only meant that Homebrew is so popular that I wouldn't be surprised if it was the reason why the OS X builds on the official website fell into disrepair.
      • stephenr 9y ago
        I see. Thats frankly a poor state of affairs if it's the case. The linked builds from git-scm.com are built by https://github.com/timcharper/git_osx_installer https://github.com/timcharper/git_osx_installer (but hosted on sourceforge for some bizarre reason), however that repo seems a little inactive lately, bar issues from users. Another thing to love about Mercurial: the project handles packaging, rather than relying on third parties to do their job for them: https://www.mercurial-scm.org/downloads https://www.mercurial-scm.org/downloads
    • ubernostrum 9y ago
      I too can randomly insult things and attribute obscenities to people I disagree with. But that doesn't substitute for making an actual argument, which I notice you have failed to do in any of your replies to other people in this thread.
      • stephenr 9y ago
        > randomly What is random about what I've said? I have very specific issues with Homebrew, and I'm pretty consistent in my complaints about it: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment&query=homebrew%20stephenr https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&prefix&page=0&dateRange=... > which I notice you have failed to do Perhaps need to notice what I actually write then, because I have made very specific complaints about the policies and actions of the Homebrew project/maintainers.
  • vSanjo 9y ago
    You can check where they're being pulled from easily; someone will need to update the git package for homebrew. https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/ https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/
• timtheenchanter 9y ago
  I have failed in my job as an unpaid volunteer maintainer. I should recruit others to be able to do this, and enable them.