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Interesting. I've been thinking about switching to Apple Music to have a bit more control over my music. Spotify puts out some amazing curated playlists that ar

by jobu 9y ago

Interesting. I've been thinking about switching to Apple Music to have a bit more control over my music. Spotify puts out some amazing curated playlists that are constantly being updated, but then after a few weeks those playlists suddenly turn to shit. My theory is that they have a few people manually curate a list with good songs for a while to train an AI, but when they finally turn control over to the AI it falls on its face and starts adding shitty cover band music to the list.

mattnewton 9y ago
It could be that, for some genres, they start with the greatest hits and then have to scrape further and further towards the bottom of the barrel
hbosch 9y ago
You will appreciate Every Noise at Once[0] maybe. It's all AI, but uses data from a massive set of users. It maps all chartable Spotify genres, and groups them into 3 playlists each. So for the genre, say "classic french pop"[1], you'd click in and see all the associated bands within that genre and see Spotify playlist links – they are: The Sound of Classic French Pop – A sampling of music that defines the genre The Pulse of Classic French Pop – Music that is often played by people who listen to lots of Classic French Pop The Edge of Classic French Pop – New or obscure music recommended for people who like Classic French Pop It's an incredibly deep web of playlists and music recommendations that has completely changed the way I experience Spotify. Highly highly recommend. __ 0. http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html 1. http://everynoise.com/engenremap-classicfrenchpop.html http://everynoise.com/engenremap-classicfrenchpop.html
- CamperBob2 9y ago
  Hmm. This is pretty damned cool. I'd subscribe to Spotify if this were a real interface to its catalog.
  - jeppebemad 9y ago
    I agree - Very cool! Under playlists you can launch in Spotify a playlist of every genre. Is that what you were missing? Thanks parent!
- thirdsun 9y ago
  This is fantastic. As someone who loves digital crate digging and to explore Discogs's world of niche releases and subgenres I was always disappointed with the rather superficial discoverability in larger, more popular music services. Thanks.
lostlogin 9y ago
Even your own playlist go rotten. They periodically change song order or (presumably because of rights being negotiated or something) songs disappear. I got so paranoid I took a screenshot to help convince me of sanity. I may not be sane but orders change and songs go missing.
eshvk 9y ago
> My theory is that they have a few people manually curate a list with good songs for a while to train an AI, but when they finally turn control over to the AI it falls on its face and starts adding shitty cover band music to the list. A curated playlist (not discover weekly or release radar for example) is editorially curated and driven by a human. Doesn't involve an AI for now.

by jobu 9y ago

mattnewton 9y ago

It could be that, for some genres, they start with the greatest hits and then have to scrape further and further towards the bottom of the barrel

hbosch 9y ago

You will appreciate Every Noise at Once[0] maybe. It's all AI, but uses data from a massive set of users. It maps all chartable Spotify genres, and groups them into 3 playlists each. So for the genre, say "classic french pop"[1], you'd click in and see all the associated bands within that genre and see Spotify playlist links – they are: The Sound of Classic French Pop – A sampling of music that defines the genre The Pulse of Classic French Pop – Music that is often played by people who listen to lots of Classic French Pop The Edge of Classic French Pop – New or obscure music recommended for people who like Classic French Pop It's an incredibly deep web of playlists and music recommendations that has completely changed the way I experience Spotify. Highly highly recommend. __ 0. http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html http://everynoise.com/engenremap.html 1. http://everynoise.com/engenremap-classicfrenchpop.html http://everynoise.com/engenremap-classicfrenchpop.html

CamperBob2 9y ago
Hmm. This is pretty damned cool. I'd subscribe to Spotify if this were a real interface to its catalog.
- jeppebemad 9y ago
  I agree - Very cool! Under playlists you can launch in Spotify a playlist of every genre. Is that what you were missing? Thanks parent!
thirdsun 9y ago
This is fantastic. As someone who loves digital crate digging and to explore Discogs's world of niche releases and subgenres I was always disappointed with the rather superficial discoverability in larger, more popular music services. Thanks.

lostlogin 9y ago

Even your own playlist go rotten. They periodically change song order or (presumably because of rights being negotiated or something) songs disappear. I got so paranoid I took a screenshot to help convince me of sanity. I may not be sane but orders change and songs go missing.

eshvk 9y ago

> My theory is that they have a few people manually curate a list with good songs for a while to train an AI, but when they finally turn control over to the AI it falls on its face and starts adding shitty cover band music to the list. A curated playlist (not discover weekly or release radar for example) is editorially curated and driven by a human. Doesn't involve an AI for now.