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One problem is that every machine tends to be designed just a little bit differently. Therefore, tips on exactly recreating the sound might not necessarily tran
by soundwave106 9y ago
One problem is that every machine tends to be designed just a little bit differently. Therefore, tips on exactly recreating the sound might not necessarily translate well from one machine to another.
For instance, the "Blade Runner Blues" patch as I understand it is actually one of the brass presets on the Yamaha CS-80. (Bad recording but here: https://www.firsthomebank.com/personal-banking/deposit-products/ https://www.firsthomebank.com/personal-banking/deposit-produ...) The CS-80 has a pretty unique architecture for a polyphonic analog. (http://www.cs80.com/tour.html http://www.cs80.com/tour.html) To get a patch exactly right would require replicating layout, filter architecture and structure, etc.
Knowing basics synthesis, however, can get you pretty close. I have a patch on my Alesis Andromeda (which has some CS-80 type elements such as a ribbon controller, dual resonant filters, and an unfiltered sine that goes to the post-filter mix) that someone did in a user community -- it came out decently good. I was able to Google a book page that gives a good overview of recreating it on other synths. (https://books.google.com/books?id=Jz1JMnZNO88C&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=vangelis+blade+runner+sawtooth&source=bl&ots=NOAFI2NZIl&sig=vVhSswupE1Qr-YVSFPOVZ3Rytwc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNlcqlxePTAhUKiCwKHbmWADAQ6AEIQDAF#v=onepage&q=vangelis%20blade%20runner%20sawtooth&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=Jz1JMnZNO88C&pg=PA74&lpg=P...)
Now, to really get the Vangelis Blade Runner type effect, you have to be able to play a synthesizer expressively. This is unfortunately is tougher on most synths compared to the CS-80, due to the CS-80's polyphonic aftertouch that most synths lack. That being said, there are other techniques people could do. I understand that Vangelis used pedals to manipulate filter and volume, and that is something that can be done on many synths that I don't see a lot of people taking advantage of. Don't discount playing technique when it comes to the art of sound design, in other words.
- Applejinx 9y agoThat's an understatement. Vangelis improvises whole soundtracks live, playing fairly simple melodic lines and counterpoints with his hands, but manipulating LOTS of pedals to arrange on the fly. By that, I mean more than ten pedals, arrayed in an enormous bank at his feet. It's staggering, and I can't think of a single other electronic musician with nearly that proficiency at foot-pedals.
- hasbroslasher 9y agoI really like that you just went off on a huge tangent about this, no sarcasm. I really agree with your last line too, Kevin Shields is another example of this. By perfecting a unique playing style (holding the pitch bar while strumming) he was able to come up with a sound so unique that it spawned a subgenre