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> Not a lot of people have played with Jigsaw: it is hardly a thing you can play with in an afternoon. Presumably the people voting on it have. > can you expl
by xienze 9y ago
> Not a lot of people have played with Jigsaw: it is hardly a thing you can play with in an afternoon.
Presumably the people voting on it have.
> can you explain why saying exactly the same thing much sooner would not have been?
Because letting it get this far (weeks? from release) and then suddenly objecting loudly seems a little fishy versus bringing up technical objections years ago when there would be adequate time to address them?
- lvh 9y agoThis is not the first time those people have complained about Jigsaw by any stretch; it is the first time it has come to a vote and people felt it was worth to summarize the arguments. Oracle didn't even think Jigsaw was ready for a long time, which is why it didn't _even come to a vote previously_ and has delayed Java 9 by months. The release cycle was supposed to be 2 years, and Jigsaw is the only reason it isn't. Jigsaw has been a project for... a decade? now. That isn't a consequence of easy consensus. It is the first time people who aren't voting, Java programmers, could realistically try Jigsaw.