Consider bigger companies where the enemies of middle managers are all other internal departments. Technically IT and engineering work for the same company. I

Consider bigger companies where the enemies of middle managers are all other internal departments. Technically IT and engineering work for the same company. In practice you're more likely to get cooperation with a competitor company. I'm not exaggerating in that its easier to serve on standards committees than to get an exception to "policy" from another department. The "dog eat dog" happens at middle management not grunt front line level, but it's there...