> Meanwhile, significant incremental engineering benefits in JDK9 were being held back by this sweeping change; so now maybe we can just get a better JVM withou

> Meanwhile, significant incremental engineering benefits in JDK9 were being held back by this sweeping change; so now maybe we can just get a better JVM without breaking the world. I think that was Jigsaw's biggest mistake: trying to build a strict module system that will allow modularizing the JVM and expecting that module system to be useful to Java developers, who are already using powerful userland module systems. I frankly hope that the next iteration of Jigsaw just modularizes the JVM without exposing anything to userland.