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Did you even look at the pictures in the article? It shows two naked men having sex in various ways - one kneeling while removing the other's underwear, in ano

by sambeau 16y ago

Did you even look at the pictures in the article? It shows two naked men having sex in various ways - one kneeling while removing the other's underwear, in another scene they are sitting on a chair stroking each others penises. I have nothing against men having sex or pictures of men having sex. However, I cannot think of many main-stream shops that would stock such pictures - even most book shops would consider this pornographic. I would rather my children didn't have to confront this yet, too. At least let them wait until they are sexual. It is completely reasonable for Apple to reject this from THEIR shop.

jrockway 16y ago
I would rather my children didn't have to confront this yet, too. Won't someone please think of the adults? You have to be over 17 to buy the app anyway, and parental controls let you explicitly block this sort of app. Plus, if your kids want to see naked men having sex, well... let me tell you about this little thing called the Internet. It's directly accessible in the "safari" app, and it contains porn. Oh so much porn. Anyway, I am tired of "for the children". It's not for the children, it's for the prudes.
- sambeau 16y ago
  I do see you your point. And I don't disagree. I also don't think that this graphic novel is offensive - it looks interesting, well written and well drawn. It is certainly art, not porn. However I can't see how Apple can curate for quality without also curating for taste. To run a store like this no doubt means employing hundreds of young testers and a bunch of draconian policies. To get them to understand the subtlety between art and porn (or good porn and bad porn) is no doubt asking too much. To do it in a way that will not enrage prudes, governments, religious types, anyone who wants to bash Apple for any other reason etc is something else entirely. To set up a good 18+ store in this way will be nigh-on impossible without either dropping all rules (and therefore all quality) or risking the wrath of the moral majority. Having the occasional piece of genuine art rejected to walk this fine line is no doubt seen as a reasonable compromise. I hope that Apple can fix this - but I'm not sure they will be able.

by sambeau 16y ago

jrockway 16y ago

I would rather my children didn't have to confront this yet, too. Won't someone please think of the adults? You have to be over 17 to buy the app anyway, and parental controls let you explicitly block this sort of app. Plus, if your kids want to see naked men having sex, well... let me tell you about this little thing called the Internet. It's directly accessible in the "safari" app, and it contains porn. Oh so much porn. Anyway, I am tired of "for the children". It's not for the children, it's for the prudes.

sambeau 16y ago
I do see you your point. And I don't disagree. I also don't think that this graphic novel is offensive - it looks interesting, well written and well drawn. It is certainly art, not porn. However I can't see how Apple can curate for quality without also curating for taste. To run a store like this no doubt means employing hundreds of young testers and a bunch of draconian policies. To get them to understand the subtlety between art and porn (or good porn and bad porn) is no doubt asking too much. To do it in a way that will not enrage prudes, governments, religious types, anyone who wants to bash Apple for any other reason etc is something else entirely. To set up a good 18+ store in this way will be nigh-on impossible without either dropping all rules (and therefore all quality) or risking the wrath of the moral majority. Having the occasional piece of genuine art rejected to walk this fine line is no doubt seen as a reasonable compromise. I hope that Apple can fix this - but I'm not sure they will be able.