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Can't exactly see the value this brings that Apache Zeppelin doesn't already offer. https://zeppelin.apache.org/ https://zeppelin.apache.org/

buckbova 9y ago
It's a standalone app.
mwexler 9y ago
Isn't this self hosted, running on the windows client, so you can quickly work with small datasets that are local? Vs. Zeppelin which is hosted (or, if local, is running via docker), and would require uploading the data? If you already have a trusted Zeppelin or Jupyter or other notebook, then this may not be needed, but if you want to keep all local, this may be a quick and easy alternative... assuming you like SQL.
- skybrian 9y ago
  I haven't used it but it looks like Zeppelin is a Java web application that's available on localhost by default. No docker needed, just download and run. https://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/0.6.0/install/install.html https://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/0.6.0/install/install.html
  - mwexler 9y ago
    Fair enough; I've never used it locally as I always am using hosted versions. Still, lots of extra overhead to just beat up some tables in sql. If you think you would do more beyond that, however, makes sense to try a notebook...
catawbasam 9y ago
Better SQL integration and better browsing of tabular data, maybe?
tomc1985 9y ago
Not a web app? That's huge.
recursive 9y ago
It's got a straight-forward installer that's 6MB. I was able to run it and use it in seconds. Zeppelin has source available, or a binary package with a spark interpreter, or a binary package with "all interpreters". That one is 712MB. If I just want to use it, I still don't understand what to actually do. I'm downloading the big .tgz as we speak. Following the installation guide, A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all>bin\zeppelin.cmd Log dir doesn't exist, create A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all\logs Pid dir doesn't exist, create A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all\run The system cannot find the path specified. A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all>mkdir logs A subdirectory or file logs already exists. A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all>bin\zeppelin.cmd The system cannot find the path specified. And now I'm completely stuck. So the value in this compared to Zeppelin is that it's small, straight-forward, and simple.
- petercooper 9y ago
  Says more about how long I haven't used a MS OS than anything but I initially had a 5 second "why are they installing it on their floppy drive?" moment there :-)
  - dylz 9y ago
    What's a floppy drive?
  - temp246810 9y ago
    Ha - yes DOS commands hold a special place in my heart so to speak. The very first "terminal" like thing I learned as a really young kid was how to load a floppy disk, which usually just meant typing a:. Memories.
    - petercooper 9y ago
      Ditto. For me A: was always a 3.5" drive with B: being, optionally, a 5.25" drive (if installed). Not sure how universal that was though. I do like how C: has mostly hung on though.
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derimagia 9y ago
Looks like some web app? There are like a thousand of those

buckbova 9y ago

It's a standalone app.

mwexler 9y ago

Isn't this self hosted, running on the windows client, so you can quickly work with small datasets that are local? Vs. Zeppelin which is hosted (or, if local, is running via docker), and would require uploading the data? If you already have a trusted Zeppelin or Jupyter or other notebook, then this may not be needed, but if you want to keep all local, this may be a quick and easy alternative... assuming you like SQL.

skybrian 9y ago
I haven't used it but it looks like Zeppelin is a Java web application that's available on localhost by default. No docker needed, just download and run. https://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/0.6.0/install/install.html https://zeppelin.apache.org/docs/0.6.0/install/install.html
- mwexler 9y ago
  Fair enough; I've never used it locally as I always am using hosted versions. Still, lots of extra overhead to just beat up some tables in sql. If you think you would do more beyond that, however, makes sense to try a notebook...

catawbasam 9y ago

Better SQL integration and better browsing of tabular data, maybe?

tomc1985 9y ago

Not a web app? That's huge.

recursive 9y ago

It's got a straight-forward installer that's 6MB. I was able to run it and use it in seconds. Zeppelin has source available, or a binary package with a spark interpreter, or a binary package with "all interpreters". That one is 712MB. If I just want to use it, I still don't understand what to actually do. I'm downloading the big .tgz as we speak. Following the installation guide, A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all>bin\zeppelin.cmd Log dir doesn't exist, create A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all\logs Pid dir doesn't exist, create A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all\run The system cannot find the path specified. A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all>mkdir logs A subdirectory or file logs already exists. A:\TEMP\zeppelin\zeppelin-0.7.1-bin-all>bin\zeppelin.cmd The system cannot find the path specified. And now I'm completely stuck. So the value in this compared to Zeppelin is that it's small, straight-forward, and simple.

petercooper 9y ago
Says more about how long I haven't used a MS OS than anything but I initially had a 5 second "why are they installing it on their floppy drive?" moment there :-)
- dylz 9y ago
  What's a floppy drive?
- temp246810 9y ago
  Ha - yes DOS commands hold a special place in my heart so to speak. The very first "terminal" like thing I learned as a really young kid was how to load a floppy disk, which usually just meant typing a:. Memories.
  - petercooper 9y ago
    Ditto. For me A: was always a 3.5" drive with B: being, optionally, a 5.25" drive (if installed). Not sure how universal that was though. I do like how C: has mostly hung on though.
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derimagia 9y ago

Looks like some web app? There are like a thousand of those