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I agree. A lot of the other UIs are insane. One of them boasts about its full physics package to accurately render the cables connecting one "device" to another

I agree. A lot of the other UIs are insane. One of them boasts about its full physics package to accurately render the cables connecting one "device" to another. I thought it was so gimmicky but a lot of them do the same stuff and people buy it so what do I know. Ableton just makes sense. But maybe because I'm not an artist. I just like learning these tools. I will say that with a few hundred bucks of equipment (a Launchpad and a Kaossilator2) I've had hours of fun just "jamming". Also for more technical fun, there are 3rd party MIDI loopback interfaces available on Windows, so it's easy to write your own instruments. Took about an hour to hook up an Xbox360 controller so I got a few x-y inputs. Ableton makes it super easy to map them.

meri_dian 9y ago
The Ableton hate is pretty unfounded. Most people use third party synths and effects anyway so who cares about what the DAW comes prepackaged with.
- thatswrong0 9y ago
  Wha? Ableton has great built-in effects and Sampler + Operator are fantastic instruments. Some of my favorite producers use almost exclusively built-ins. You can get really far with just a few stacked Operators + saturator + erosion + overdrive + multiband dynamics. All I've felt the need for so far is a better limiter (you can't really push Ableton's) and a multi-band distortion plugin.
  - thirdsun 9y ago
    Plus those instruments are developed by AAS [1] - a company known for their top notch physical modeling instruments. They are very powerful indeed. --- [1] https://www.applied-acoustics.com/ https://www.applied-acoustics.com/
rwmj 9y ago
The Kaossilator 1 (KO-1) is available on ebay for under $100 and they are massive fun. Never a boring train/plane journey with a KO-1 and some headphones.
squeaky-clean 9y ago
> Took about an hour to hook up an Xbox360 controller so I got a few x-y inputs. Ableton makes it super easy to map them. Fun tip: You can do this with an Xbox 360 (probably Xbox One) Rock Band drum kit for a cheap e-kit. The drumkit just sends gamepad input and there are programs to convert that to MIDI.

meri_dian 9y ago

The Ableton hate is pretty unfounded. Most people use third party synths and effects anyway so who cares about what the DAW comes prepackaged with.

thatswrong0 9y ago
Wha? Ableton has great built-in effects and Sampler + Operator are fantastic instruments. Some of my favorite producers use almost exclusively built-ins. You can get really far with just a few stacked Operators + saturator + erosion + overdrive + multiband dynamics. All I've felt the need for so far is a better limiter (you can't really push Ableton's) and a multi-band distortion plugin.
- thirdsun 9y ago
  Plus those instruments are developed by AAS [1] - a company known for their top notch physical modeling instruments. They are very powerful indeed. --- [1] https://www.applied-acoustics.com/ https://www.applied-acoustics.com/

rwmj 9y ago

The Kaossilator 1 (KO-1) is available on ebay for under $100 and they are massive fun. Never a boring train/plane journey with a KO-1 and some headphones.

squeaky-clean 9y ago

> Took about an hour to hook up an Xbox360 controller so I got a few x-y inputs. Ableton makes it super easy to map them. Fun tip: You can do this with an Xbox 360 (probably Xbox One) Rock Band drum kit for a cheap e-kit. The drumkit just sends gamepad input and there are programs to convert that to MIDI.