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> you can do far more damage to your life or someone elses with a smartphone than a car. Could you elaborate? I find it difficult to imagine how one kills some

by d33 9y ago

> you can do far more damage to your life or someone elses with a smartphone than a car. Could you elaborate? I find it difficult to imagine how one kills somebody using a smartphone, while with a car it's pretty obvious.

FussyZeus 9y ago
I can't remember her name, but it wasn't long ago someone tweeted an incredibly stupid joke about AIDS in Africa, and by the time their plane landed they'd lost their job and had been publicly disgraced so thoroughly they were unemployed for something like 9 months. I should've been more specific, obviously a car will do more physical damage but I'm talking less about actually hurting someone and more about ruining someone's life.
- wolfgke 9y ago
  > but it wasn't long ago someone tweeted an incredibly stupid joke about AIDS in Africa, and by the time their plane landed they'd lost their job and had been publicly disgraced so thoroughly they were unemployed for something like 9 months. The mistake in my opinion rather lies in doing such a strong reaction on a bad joke.
  - FussyZeus 9y ago
    Well yeah and if you're t-boned by a drunk driver the mistake is the person driving drunk, not you going for a taco bell run. Unfortunately your spine is still shattered regardless of who actually was making mistakes.
- snerbles 9y ago
  The case of Justine Sacco. A magical combination of a single bad joke and outrage culture. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-t... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2955322/Justine-Sacco-reveals-destroyed-life-racist-tweet-trip-Africa.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2955322/Justine-Sa...
  - FussyZeus 9y ago
    Right. Now whether the reaction was too much or not enough is up to the reader, but what is clear is that simply sending a tweet like that can have ramifications for the literal remainder of your life, she's never going to be completely decoupled from telling that stupid joke as long as she lives and probably a decent time after that, too. I find it disturbing that so many people seem to think Twitter and Facebook and the rest are just places to dump whatever thought runs through your brains as though nobody but the people you want to see it will ever see it. But again, that's what things like Facebook advertise as, and that's the type of content Twitter encourages.
    - zeroer 9y ago
      Wow. I've made jokes 10x worse in meatspace. I'm thankful I grew up before the social media craze.
  - AlexandrB 9y ago
    > outrage culture I think that's a little simplistic. Social media like Twitter and Facebook collapse the context and expand the audience of a joke/meme [1] until it's almost sure to reach someone who will find it genuinely offensive. In real life, a joke (good or bad) normally reaches a small number of people at a time. If it's good it may spread and if it's bad it will eventually meet with disapproval that will limit its spread. The online space inverts this dynamic completely by making the spread of someone else's mistake a performative act. Now a bad/offensive joke will spread like wildfire because those spreading it get to stick someone else's name on it and say: "look how bad of a joke this person made". [1] http://hlwiki.slais.ubc.ca/index.php/Context_collapse_in_social_media http://hlwiki.slais.ubc.ca/index.php/Context_collapse_in_soc...

by d33 9y ago

FussyZeus 9y ago

I can't remember her name, but it wasn't long ago someone tweeted an incredibly stupid joke about AIDS in Africa, and by the time their plane landed they'd lost their job and had been publicly disgraced so thoroughly they were unemployed for something like 9 months. I should've been more specific, obviously a car will do more physical damage but I'm talking less about actually hurting someone and more about ruining someone's life.

wolfgke 9y ago
> but it wasn't long ago someone tweeted an incredibly stupid joke about AIDS in Africa, and by the time their plane landed they'd lost their job and had been publicly disgraced so thoroughly they were unemployed for something like 9 months. The mistake in my opinion rather lies in doing such a strong reaction on a bad joke.
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  Well yeah and if you're t-boned by a drunk driver the mistake is the person driving drunk, not you going for a taco bell run. Unfortunately your spine is still shattered regardless of who actually was making mistakes.
snerbles 9y ago
The case of Justine Sacco. A magical combination of a single bad joke and outrage culture. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-tweet-ruined-justine-saccos-life.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/magazine/how-one-stupid-t... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2955322/Justine-Sacco-reveals-destroyed-life-racist-tweet-trip-Africa.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2955322/Justine-Sa...
- FussyZeus 9y ago
  Right. Now whether the reaction was too much or not enough is up to the reader, but what is clear is that simply sending a tweet like that can have ramifications for the literal remainder of your life, she's never going to be completely decoupled from telling that stupid joke as long as she lives and probably a decent time after that, too. I find it disturbing that so many people seem to think Twitter and Facebook and the rest are just places to dump whatever thought runs through your brains as though nobody but the people you want to see it will ever see it. But again, that's what things like Facebook advertise as, and that's the type of content Twitter encourages.
  - zeroer 9y ago
    Wow. I've made jokes 10x worse in meatspace. I'm thankful I grew up before the social media craze.
- AlexandrB 9y ago
  > outrage culture I think that's a little simplistic. Social media like Twitter and Facebook collapse the context and expand the audience of a joke/meme [1] until it's almost sure to reach someone who will find it genuinely offensive. In real life, a joke (good or bad) normally reaches a small number of people at a time. If it's good it may spread and if it's bad it will eventually meet with disapproval that will limit its spread. The online space inverts this dynamic completely by making the spread of someone else's mistake a performative act. Now a bad/offensive joke will spread like wildfire because those spreading it get to stick someone else's name on it and say: "look how bad of a joke this person made". [1] http://hlwiki.slais.ubc.ca/index.php/Context_collapse_in_social_media http://hlwiki.slais.ubc.ca/index.php/Context_collapse_in_soc...