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All my stuff is Apple hardware. But I went from an extremely happy client to an "okay" client: because of convenience, I don't want to start messing with Androi

All my stuff is Apple hardware. But I went from an extremely happy client to an "okay" client: because of convenience, I don't want to start messing with Android (and having Google monitoring my like a little baby duck) and going back to Windows (hey some dissapointing "the grass looks greener on the other side"-stories) or Linux, where still, if your eye wants something, there's so many quite horrible inconsistent ugly things happening. So Apple is still the best choice for people like me who don't totally want to break their current workflow, simply because there's no convincing great alternative out there. But the credits, or forgiveness of all this is dwindling fastly. If I would've bought this new MBP for 3500 EUR from my own money, instead of it being a company laptop - rather than my personal one --, I would feel seriously cheated -- and probably would've gone for a Lenovo instead. Apple, under Jobs, made plenty of mistakes, but in the last years, he was pretty much spot on. In my eyes, Tim Cook, makes one mistake after the other. And it's not just the Mac Pro, but also the Mac Mini (which is a great computer-format), the audio jacks on the iPhone, the removing of the magsafe, dongle-life, etc. So there's plenty of reasons to say basically: let's bail from this mess. The problem is that the alternatives are not so much obviously better. GrumpyGamer's posts when compiling Thimbleweed Park for Windows were a pretty good reminder of staying away from Windows. ;)

hota_mazi 9y ago
> and having Google monitoring my like a little baby duck So instead, you prefer Apple monitoring you like a little baby duck?
- dredmorbius 9y ago
  I'm not particularly an Apple fan, but Apple isn't an advertising company fundamentally premised on profiling users. The business is far more aligned with user privacy than Google's, inherently. That said, Google seem to have some smarts about defending against high-level attacks, though also some very noteable failures. Remember, John Podesta's email phishing occurred on a Gmail account. And it's Gmail which secures the Traitor Puppet Fascist Donald John Trump's Twitter account password recovery.
- ksk 9y ago
  Purely subjective, but I'd say there is a difference in comfort levels when looking at companies where you paid cash in exchange for a product, and companies where they give you free stuff, and then eyeball you for the rest of your life, trying to find ways to extract money from you.
  - Yetanfou 9y ago
    Yes, there difference being that in the former case you get to pay twice - once in cash, the second time in personal profiling. Also, it is possible - and not all that hard - to run Android without any proprietary (closed) Google software. The same can not be said about iOS.
    - ksk 9y ago
      That is not what Apple says though. https://www.apple.com/privacy/ https://www.apple.com/privacy/ >We don’t build a profile based on your email content or web browsing habits to sell to advertisers. We don’t “monetize” the information you store on your iPhone or in iCloud. And we don’t read your email or your messages to get information to market to you. Our software and services are designed to make our devices better. Plain and simple.
      - Yetanfou 9y ago
        Thing is, I don't trust Apple, just as I don't trust other companies (Google included, which is why I don't have Google proprietary stuff on my Android devices). I trust them to the extent that their current business plan does not centre around 'monetising' profile data but that's about it. I fully expect they did in fact design their systems to make it possible to eventually 'monetise' such data. Do I have proof for this, other than the fact that they've shown to be less than fully truthful about their data retention policies? No, I do not, but I do know that it is more rule than exception for commercial entities to eventually renege on their promises of personal privacy, probably because that huge 'big data' carrot on that stick is just too juicy to be ignored. Given Apple's enormous cash reserve they pose the additional threat of being able to outright buy large industrial players in lucrative fields which would allow them to use the collected data to target their customers without needing to 'sell to advertisers'.
valuearb 9y ago
The most interesting part of Gasee's piece was the increased ASP of the Mac line. Since Macs are 7% of the of market by unit sales, and its ASP is now almost 3x the rest of the market, it's nearing 20% of of industry revenues, and and probably 60% of pc hardware profits. I'm a critic of the poor pace of mac updates, but Apple is making far more profits in iPhones and Macs (and overall) now than when Jobs was in charge. It's market position is far stronger as well.

hota_mazi 9y ago

> and having Google monitoring my like a little baby duck So instead, you prefer Apple monitoring you like a little baby duck?

dredmorbius 9y ago
I'm not particularly an Apple fan, but Apple isn't an advertising company fundamentally premised on profiling users. The business is far more aligned with user privacy than Google's, inherently. That said, Google seem to have some smarts about defending against high-level attacks, though also some very noteable failures. Remember, John Podesta's email phishing occurred on a Gmail account. And it's Gmail which secures the Traitor Puppet Fascist Donald John Trump's Twitter account password recovery.
ksk 9y ago
Purely subjective, but I'd say there is a difference in comfort levels when looking at companies where you paid cash in exchange for a product, and companies where they give you free stuff, and then eyeball you for the rest of your life, trying to find ways to extract money from you.
- Yetanfou 9y ago
  Yes, there difference being that in the former case you get to pay twice - once in cash, the second time in personal profiling. Also, it is possible - and not all that hard - to run Android without any proprietary (closed) Google software. The same can not be said about iOS.
  - ksk 9y ago
    That is not what Apple says though. https://www.apple.com/privacy/ https://www.apple.com/privacy/ >We don’t build a profile based on your email content or web browsing habits to sell to advertisers. We don’t “monetize” the information you store on your iPhone or in iCloud. And we don’t read your email or your messages to get information to market to you. Our software and services are designed to make our devices better. Plain and simple.
    - Yetanfou 9y ago
      Thing is, I don't trust Apple, just as I don't trust other companies (Google included, which is why I don't have Google proprietary stuff on my Android devices). I trust them to the extent that their current business plan does not centre around 'monetising' profile data but that's about it. I fully expect they did in fact design their systems to make it possible to eventually 'monetise' such data. Do I have proof for this, other than the fact that they've shown to be less than fully truthful about their data retention policies? No, I do not, but I do know that it is more rule than exception for commercial entities to eventually renege on their promises of personal privacy, probably because that huge 'big data' carrot on that stick is just too juicy to be ignored. Given Apple's enormous cash reserve they pose the additional threat of being able to outright buy large industrial players in lucrative fields which would allow them to use the collected data to target their customers without needing to 'sell to advertisers'.

valuearb 9y ago

The most interesting part of Gasee's piece was the increased ASP of the Mac line. Since Macs are 7% of the of market by unit sales, and its ASP is now almost 3x the rest of the market, it's nearing 20% of of industry revenues, and and probably 60% of pc hardware profits. I'm a critic of the poor pace of mac updates, but Apple is making far more profits in iPhones and Macs (and overall) now than when Jobs was in charge. It's market position is far stronger as well.