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@derefr, @mjevans I agree with you both. It's my personal opinion that these meds are better used as a crutch to help someone seek out therapy. I've seen peopl

by hosh 10y ago

@derefr, @mjevans I agree with you both. It's my personal opinion that these meds are better used as a crutch to help someone seek out therapy. I've seen people get trapped in their own psyche where, they are running in a closed maze of suffering, unable to find their way out of it. I also think modern society is bat-shit crazy. It isn't just that depression has been dismissed as a survival trait, or even that it is demonized. There are aspects of modern society that induces much greater existential anguish which is then cleverly swept under the rug of "Progress".

mjevans 10y ago
Thank you for helping me see another way that Derefr may have mistaken my sub-topic. I can now see that I needed additional emphasis on "depression" and "sadness" being used interchangeably in modern conversation, and how treating the issues of both is complicated by the focus on just making a problem go away rather than identifying the true nature and causes of that problem. People, doctors who should know better, and patients who should be better informed by (and listen to, and have //repeated// re-education by health professionals as the corrective actions enable them to think more clearly), will and do abuse the "crutch" as a "magic pill to make the problems go away". The for-profit nature of healthcare within the US also leads to a lack of appropriate balance in treatment and an over-reliance on pills. I do not disagree that depression can be an irregularity within someone's body, but I am trying to convey that //sometimes// (unknown quantity, who even studies that?) the source of the problem is ultimately outside of the individual's body, and therefore the ultimate solution is also there. I worry that the reason people are loosing sight of "their true self" is that what should be a "crutch" has instead become a permanent mask that they wear as their only identity. Modern medicine works by identifying symptoms and treating symptoms, far less often even identifying the underlying root cause(s), let alone treating them. This is great if the symptom is acute like a stabbing, gunshot, or heart attack. It's less so if the symptom is environmental.

by hosh 10y ago

mjevans 10y ago

Thank you for helping me see another way that Derefr may have mistaken my sub-topic. I can now see that I needed additional emphasis on "depression" and "sadness" being used interchangeably in modern conversation, and how treating the issues of both is complicated by the focus on just making a problem go away rather than identifying the true nature and causes of that problem. People, doctors who should know better, and patients who should be better informed by (and listen to, and have //repeated// re-education by health professionals as the corrective actions enable them to think more clearly), will and do abuse the "crutch" as a "magic pill to make the problems go away". The for-profit nature of healthcare within the US also leads to a lack of appropriate balance in treatment and an over-reliance on pills. I do not disagree that depression can be an irregularity within someone's body, but I am trying to convey that //sometimes// (unknown quantity, who even studies that?) the source of the problem is ultimately outside of the individual's body, and therefore the ultimate solution is also there. I worry that the reason people are loosing sight of "their true self" is that what should be a "crutch" has instead become a permanent mask that they wear as their only identity. Modern medicine works by identifying symptoms and treating symptoms, far less often even identifying the underlying root cause(s), let alone treating them. This is great if the symptom is acute like a stabbing, gunshot, or heart attack. It's less so if the symptom is environmental.